"Collectors Price guide"

All I know is that if someone asked me how many pennies in a dollar. I wouldn't tell them it's cents not pennies. Then tell them to look it up

 

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Ahem...

 

How many actual "pennies" to the "dollar" is a time-dependent question, isn't it? Foreign exchange and all.

 

E gads. I like you all but try to to be kind and helpful to each other. I replied to paddyman54 about his thread about whats wrong with the silver war nickel his dad left him.. Thinking about this son and dad thing was important to him. I noticed no one replied to the thread. I figured I'd respond and tell him to educate me. Was caught of guard when i was told to look it up. Telling me with a long rant about how i should educate myself. Not to count on others for answers. Im not a nummy (numisetic) you know what i mean. I collect cents for my grandbabies. Now i think I'll be more thoughtful with my replies. Sad. .

 

Read my last reply

 

I have, and I lack a famiarity with the backstory. I don't know the paddyman part. But what I have discovered is that paddyman sometimes gets annoyed, as I do, about being treated as everybody's unpaid intern cranking out answers on demand as if it's somehow our duty. He wants to create new numismatists. He is not that interested in being a substitute for Siri or Cortana. Can you appreciate that feeling?

There were no Internet "Answer Men" when we learned this stuff. We learned it the hard way. We want to see a little appreciation for that experience.

 

Well that's a pretty arrogant answer.

 

Holy crap on a cracker! Wow!

 

Yeah. Thanks for mediating

 

No, thank YOU. Remember, all of us are human beings. Sometimes, often even, we don't mind just spewing forth answers. But other times, we can get to feeling just a little taken advantage of.

 

Speaking of the penny, in the U.S., the plural is pennies, yet where they come from, the plural is pence. But he's the Vice President in the U.S., which is singular, and where the plural of penny is pennies.

No wonder we're nuts.

I hope no one in the Vice President's family ever names a girl Penny. That might be thruppence.

 

Cut Kurt some slack. You both have helped me be a better collector. Both points well taken. Gotta get a helmet. Cheech. Thanks for having my back

 

Lol. Felling all better

 

I think so too, or at least appeared more in touch anyway. I would bet that collectors that focus primarily on moderns wouldn't even feel like there was a place for them in the ANA.

Really people join these groups for one of two reasons, a benefit for doing so or to support something they feel is supporting them and believe in. For me I don't see either the current way things are. Generally one of the functions of a large national organization is to protect and defend the interests of it's members. I can't recall the ANA taking an active role in any of the major coin cases that we have going on lately. Actively polling members to see what they would like them to work on, lobbying for tax free coin sales in states ect all things that could make me consider joining if they were putting effort into it like other national groups do. There are plenty of coin shows whether or not the ANA puts one together every year so if that stopped I wouldn't consider it a major loss.

The other is benefits. It seems like at this point you are really just joining for the magazine and since many people don't have any paid magazine subscriptions anymore that doesn't appeal to me much. There are plenty of promotions that they could run that would get people to join just for that. The LSCC in the past has done promotions for their members with CAC where members just had to pay the shipping fee for a submission of x number of coins. The ANA could do something like that with CAC or NGC since they sold the rights to be called their grading service. I would like join if they did that for the benefit and maybe they could win me over for a renewal during the time or make it a yearly thing.

There are a lot of ways they could try and drive membership but seems like they just expect people to join because that's what people used to always do.

 

The ANA absolutely does not come off as elitist, as some others have mentioned in this thread. The ANA actually seems a lot more plebeian. The ANS is exponentially more scholarly, and could be perceived as elitist.

I first joined the ANA for a year in college, to try it out (because that's what you were supposed to do as a collector!). I let my membership lapse, and actually just rejoined two months ago. (I staid away, as have so many others, because of the incessant politics.... boring!)

After reading 2 or 3 recent issues of The Numismatist.... I haven't really missed much.... There are a few interesting articles about extremely esoteric issues that I'll never see (not to mention buy), and there are a few articles written at a very basic level. That's great for some people, but it hasn't really been very stimulating for me yet. Let's hope it gets better, or I may just let my membership lapse again....

 

Let me put some of this nonsense to bed right away. The ANA is an educational numismatic organization and IS NOT ALLOWED TO "LOBBY" ANY GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY OVER ANYTHING WHATSOEVER!!!!! It did not simply create itself and is not a trade association. It was CREATED by a Charter given to it for educational purposes by the Congress of the United States. In that regard, it is like the American Red Cross or the Boy Scouts of America.

Its mission properly includes INFORMING members of advocacy issues involved with numismatics, but NOT (as in "NEVER EVER") advocating on them per se.

As for "benefits", the biggest is the Library, the most complete numismatic lending library in the world. For me, my Liberty Mutual discount pays my dues each year all by itself. But nothing can quite compare with CoinTalk, because here I get access to the most vast repository of numismatic truth, wisdom, and purity - "Sayings From Chairman baseball21". It is, of course, magnified by the liner notes offered by @GDJMSP.

Given the choice between collecting without the ANA or collecting without the Internet, the Internet loses out by several astronomical units.

 

Three organizations with members with whom I have broken bread are FAR more elitist than the ANA: the aforementioned ANS, the Chicago Coin Club, and the New York Numismatic Society. It's why I like all three organizations immensely.

 

I'm not sure why I read through this thread. I already knew I had no interest in the ANA even though I've been a member before.

I'm sure I'll enjoy your rude response to this. From all of your snide comments, I've realized that you are a pathetic name dropper attempting to bask in the reflected glory of those you perceive to be your, and our, betters. By touting the vast superiority of out of date books and inefficient face to face queries with experts to the terabytes of information instantly available on line shows that you are analog in a digital world.

I'm also confident that you wouldn't be brave enough to be this rude if you weren't hiding behind a keyboard. With all the disdain you show for this site and the people who enjoy it here, why are you here?

 

or "Brownsheet" to reflect new fictional pricing correlation with the fictional fantasy "Greysheet"

JMHO

 

Then I have no use for it. The Newman portal is already putting as many numismatic books online as they can. In the long run it would be cheaper for someone to just buy the books anyway then spending to having them shipped back and forth and membership fees if they couldn't find it online in the first place, which they likely could