Dolphin or Capricorn?

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  1. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    Dolphin or Capricorn?

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    ancientone, May 25, 2017
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  3. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Both. Dolphin left, Capricorn right. I love it.
     
    Pishpash, May 25, 2017
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Looks like a capricorn or hippocamp to me.
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    This. Cool!
     
    lordmarcovan, May 25, 2017
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  6. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice bronze!
     
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  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I'm with dolphin. My rough Maximinus is shown on trident between two fish.
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    dougsmit, May 25, 2017
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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Dolphin/hippocamp. Neat coin
     
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  9. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    I sold this coin as unidentified over 16 years ago and reacquired 2 years ago! It was ID'd yesterday on Forvm by Mark Fox as an early provincial from Massilia in Gaul.

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    Gaul, Massalia. Æ12. After 49BC.
    Obv: MAC / Laureate head of Apollo r.
    Rev: NM / Dolphin r. with trident.

    Referenced as a dolphin but most of these are in poor condition. Mine seems to have detail those are lacking.
     
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  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    I am on-board with TIF's attribution ... I thought Capricorn for sure, but then when I drank one more wine, it kinda looked like a hippocamp (dolphin => ummm, no way)

    steve "David Sear" x6

    ;)
     
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  11. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    IF you turn in a little more it kinda looks like a 3 headed chicken..... but I think it look like a capricorn too lol
     
    randygeki, May 26, 2017
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  12. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Capricorn--you can even see the ears and forelegs!

    Compare:

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  13. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Artist & Historian Supporter

    Thanks for a great post, ancientone! Fascinating symbols for coins! I don't yet have a dolphin or porpoise but I have a Capricorn or two and my most plentiful Emperor.

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  14. Hispanicus

    Hispanicus Stand Fast!

    Ancientone,
    I would say both and add that it is an enviable bronze
     
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  15. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    Here's a similar coin still referenced as a dolphin that I've rotated left. Head and face are clear. Sea-goat or Sea-horse?
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  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    :rolleyes:

    Definitely a Capricorn ... man, I need to get myself an example
     
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  17. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    I recant Capricorn and go with the experts. But da#n! That looks like a Capricorn!

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    ancientone, Jun 5, 2017
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  18. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    experts ... that's a Capricorn (Doug's is totally different than your coin)

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    => stick to your guns, my friend

    :rolleyes:
     
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  19. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

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    Hey Steve! Mark Fox over at Forvm changed my mind with, "I have yet to find tridents associated with capricorns in a numismatic context." I'm just peachy with the fact it looks like both.
     
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  20. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @ancientone , OMG, we are all wrong! That is a Venus Fly Trap! Look at the jaws at the top (10-11 o'clock!). They are indigenous to North Carolina... ergo, PROOF the Romans landed in America!

    :D sorry, I.JUST.could.NOT.resist...
     
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  21. Carl Wilmont

    Carl Wilmont Well-Known Member

    On this Titus denarius reverse, there's a not-so-clear dolphin above a wreath which is above a tripod with ravens on it. Titus Denarius Reverse.jpg
     
    Carl Wilmont, Jun 6, 2017
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