What do you grade it?

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  1. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    Hey @Paddy54
     
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  3. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    The half dimes are so small, is there any safe conservation method?
     
  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    A very nice 1836 bust H-10 as to grade something between Xf-45 and Au.
    The reasoning for such a spread is I would need to examine in hand to make a solid call.
    It's has old album toning and would be more than welcome in my collection of bust H-10's. Genuine yes 100% and looks to be a nice variety to boot from my first glance.
    I will try and do the die marriages on it later on this afternoon . Love the clashes and actually the color very natural from where it spent some time an old album.
    In its condition these are becoming more rare.... I strive for xf and above .....and yet finding some varieties I need the bar needs to be lowered . You just don't find them....and when you do you ask yourself can I live with a detailed coin for the sake of the date or variety . I will pull up the marriage in a few.... sweet coin.
     
  5. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    AU-50 for me. Lovely example.
     
  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Correct it's an obv. 3 , rev. HH R-2 LM-5
    Heavy repunched N -1 , & recut stars 1,11,&12
    Nice pick up
     
  7. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I'm cheerfully on board with AU50. The weakness in the horizontal bars of the shield is characteristic and shouldn't lead one astray when grading. Understanding that I'm not currently capable of displaying my monitor's native resolution (long story), I'm seeing a rather nice original sorta-Circulation Cameo which I'd personally be happy to throw money at as the resident Bust Half Dime in an AU typeset. :)
     
  8. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    Paddy, what do you call that obv. 3?
     
  9. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    I would leave it be also.
     
  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    There are 4 obv. Dies for the 1836 H-10 so out of the 4 it's an #3. There's 6 possible rev dies used for the 1836 the reverse die is an HH . Hope this explains Jerry
     
  11. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    You are (IMO) the H-10C "go to guy"!
     
  12. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't try any type of cleaning or dipping. The surfaces do appears to have been lightly cleaned and retoned at some point from the image. An in hand look would be a better call if it was. I wouldn't want to try to improve what age has done to its patina.
     
  13. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    No Jerry just someone who loves the series and loves to research them....no expert . As we all know even experts can and have been wrong from time to time. :)
     
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  14. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    It's the same method as any other coin. As conservation goes, size doesn't matter. That felt strange saying.
     
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  15. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    I think a TPG would net it as either XF45 or AU50 - I don't think the underlying surface is damaged, but that's some deep toning, fer sher.
     
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  16. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Well, what I meant was, there is so much less material to work with at 1.35 grams,
    would you drastically scale down the amounts of acetone that you would use on such a small amount of silver/copper?
     
  17. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'm at 45. Love the clash. Nice coin.
     
  18. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Im in agreement w this old fogey, some sort of environmental type issue, i would feel better about the assessment if i was looking at the die characteristics over on said website, i guess im too much of a lazy drunk to go look
     
  19. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    XF40, and I wouldn't call it dirty, just toned naturally. Leave it alone is my advice if you're thinking of cleaning it.
     
  20. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I think AU50-53, looks nice and original. I usually give raw, circ new purchases an acetone bath to remove contaminants, pvc, finger grease etc. It can't hurt and I have yet to see it change a coin's look (unless there was pvc). Cleaning is completely different and destructive.
     
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  21. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I gave it an acetone bath and re-photographed it. It was mailed to PCGS this morning. I'll let you know what it graded in a few weeks.

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