Finally Got A Snake Coin, and Its Silver Too

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by icerain, May 22, 2017.

  1. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    I've been eyeing these strange coins for awhile now and have been searching for one thats pretty well centered. Well, it came in the batch from where I got my hippo from. It may not have the prettiest toning but it was centered enough for me.

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    Pergamon, Mysia
    Cistphoric Tetradrachm
    123-104 B.C.
    AR25.5 / 12.5g
    o: Cista mystica with half-open lid, from which a snake emerges, all within wreath of ivy with berries
    r: bow-case holding strung bow and ornamented with an apluster, flanked on each side by a snake with head erect, ΠA monogram above between heads of snakes, Pergamon monogram to left, snake entwined thyrsos to right
    SNG Cop 424

    of course feel free to share your thoughts or anything related.
     
    Last edited: May 22, 2017
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  3. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Wonderful coin. Congrats on a very nice acquisition.
     
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    That's a wonderful example! So often these have weak and/or off-center strikes. Yours is deeply struck and comparatively well centered! The wreath is particularly well-styled.

    At this time I have only one from an blindly purchased mixed lot. I've grown to like it but wouldn't mind an upgrade someday :)

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    MYSIA, Pergamon
    76 BCE
    12.4 gm
    Obv: cista mystica with serpent; all within ivy wreath
    Rev: bow-case with serpents; snake-entwined staff to the right; monogram left; AΠ above; monogram & star above
    Ref: Kleiner, Pergamum 25; Pinder 122
     
  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    That's a nice example. For some reason, I've never felt the burning urge to own one of those (at least not yet), but they're neat- and yours is sweet.
     
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  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    PS- @TIF's toning combined with your coin's detail and surfaces? Now that would be a monstrosity!

    *sssssssssss*
     
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  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    This coin was from a large mixed lot (very mixed-- a wide swathe of ancient numismatics). It was in an old manilla coin envelope. Based on a few similar envelopes and writing, some with what were likely dates of acquisition, the coin was probably in the envelope for 40-50 years. It does have some nice deep iridescence. Too bad about the weak strike (and/or worn obverse die) and horn silver.
     
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  8. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    sssssssay.. nicccccccccccce koin! i've got a coin with a snake but that's about all i can say about that.
     
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  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I've been after one of these for a while now, just haven't pulled the trigger. Nice coin @icerain
     
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  10. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Yeah @TIF 's coin is really pretty with that toning. Really highlights the berries. It also seems that I got the obverse and reverse mixed in my photo. Now I got to go and fix it. :oops:
     
  11. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    That's a lovely coin!

    Here's a favorite of mine:

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    Antony and Octavia
    AR cistophorus, 25.6 mm, 11.71 gm
    Ephesus, 39 BCE
    Obv: M ANTONINVS IMP COS DESIG ITER ET TERT, Jugate heads of Marcus Antonius and Octavia to right; he wears ivy wreath.
    Rev: III VIR RPC, Cista mystica surmounted by figure of Bacchus, standing to left, holding cantharus and leaning on thyrsus; on either side, coiled serpent.
    Refs: SNG Cop. 408; SNG von Aulock 6555; Franke KZR 472; RSC 3; Sydenham 1198; RPC 2202; Sear 1513; BMCRR East 135
     
  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I have had two very different from each other for years. Both came in 1989. I would not mind if the light one would speed up the toning.
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  13. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Me too!

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    MYSIA, Pergamon. c. 166-67 BC.
    AR Tetradrachm, 29mm 12.5, 12h; Cistophoric standard. Struck c. 104-98 BC.
    Obv.: Cista mystica with serpent; all within ivy wreath.
    Rev.: Bow case with serpents; above, KP above prytaneis monogram, civic monogram to left, serpent-entwined staff to right.
     
  14. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    If the OP was from a mixed group lot, that was nicely scored! I've one that I've never taken photos of. I like it, but it's a fair bit uglier than any of the ones posted in this thread so far.
     
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  15. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    @icerain yours is very nice. The level of detail is super. Makes my snake look like he's entering a mystic sack instead of basket.
     
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  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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    MARCUS ANTONIUS
    Ionia Silver Cistophoric Tetradrachm
    OBVERSE: M ANTONIVS IMP COS DESIG ITER ET TERT, head of Antony right, wreathed in ivy, lituus below, all within wreath of ivy and grapes
    REVERSE: III VIR R P C, bust of Octavia right on cista flanked by snakes
    Ephesus 39 BC
    11.8gm, 26mm
    RPC I 2201, Sydenham 1197, Sear 262
     
  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @icerain , that is a great coin! Nice detail and great centering... you can always live with the toning when the coin is great!

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    Mysia, Pergamum (Pergamon) 85-76 BC
    Cista Mystica or Cistophoric Tetradrachm
    AR Tetradrachm 12.46 x 26 mm
    Obverse: Cista mystica with serpent; all within oak / ivy wreath
    Reverse: bow-case with serpents, PRE monogram to left, KP / PRY monogram above, serpent-staff right.
    Ref: Kleiner 36
     
  18. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    My example from down the road in Ephesus

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  19. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    on the list!

    yours is a pretty darn nice one IR...score!
     
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  20. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    1999 Turkmenistan...500 Manat... cue in the Indiana Jones music now...
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    I know it's not ancient, but I thought you all might like it.
     
  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I haven't had too many "snakey" coins.

    I should, since I was born in the Year of the Snake, according to the Chinese zodiac.

    (My Western zodiac sign is Capricorn. Got that covered!)

    Though it isn't very distinct, there's a snake being fed on the reverse of this Crispina sestertius I had in my original collection. Despite some deposits, I loved this coin, and thought it had a great portrait. Some people don't like flan cracks so much, but as long as they don't threaten the fabric of the coin itself, they don't really bother me. At the time, I focused mainly on a good portrait first and a clear name in the legends second.

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