She-wolf coin exergue: star SLG

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  1. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

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    Hi, curious about if there is any more info about this type of exergue for this coin, a Star + SLG. What I've seen on wildwinds seems to be a crescent with a dot and SLG, or just SLG.

    Person claims: RIC VII 242; Sear 16490.
     
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  3. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Nice coin. I don't know much about this commemorative issue, but I do happen to have one too. I'm sure others here will be able to answer your question better than I could.

    Here's mine: Although it is slightly off center on the reverse, mine is TRS (you can barely make it out) and a star which is not visible due to the off centering.

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    Time of Constantine I and Sons.
    Æ Follis, 17mm, 2.3g, 6h; Trier mint, AD 332-333.
    Obv.: VRBS ROMA, helmeted and mantled bust of Roma left,
    Rev.: She-wolf standing left, suckling the twins Romulus and Remus; two stars above // TRS star.
    Reference: RIC VII 547, p. 217
    From the YOC Collection
     
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I think you'll find it on Dane Kurth's VRBS spreadsheet. Scroll down this page to find and download the very detailed spreadsheet.

    Yours looks like *SLG, which per the spreadsheet is RIC VII Lyons 267, Sear 16493 (VRBS Roma with wolf and twins, mantled bust left, plumed helmet, two stars on reverse; *SLG in exergue)

    ... and welcome to CoinTalk :)
     
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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I edited the above post because I forgot to write the RIC number :oops:
     
  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    The "SLG" is correct, but where is the crescent and dot? Like @TIF I see a star before the mintmark SLG.

    BTW, nice well detailed coin.
     
  7. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    I was saying that what I've seen normally on places like wildwinds was ones with crescent and dot or just SLG.

    It's the star that I was questioning about.
     
  8. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    I edited my OP to be more clear. Thx
     
  9. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Welcome to cointalk!

    You've come to the right place to talk ancients with a lot of nice and knowledgeable people.

    John
     
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  10. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Thanks, John! I certainly do feel welcome!
     
  11. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Thanks, Sallent. I just bought my first she wolf the other day. It needs a little cleaning, but want to preserve the patina as much as i can too. I'm super excited to recieve it! And maybe I can win out and purchase the coin I asked about too.
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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Dot and crescent with dot are just other options. I'm sure they coded something but I do not know what. This period saw changes in weight standards so these marks may have referred to those rather like US silver coins once used arrows and rays to signal weight changes.
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  13. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    It's RIC VII 267, from Lyons. Here's the listing. There were two officinae: P for "primum" (first) and S for "secundum" (second). They are often preceded by crescents, crescents with dots, palm branches, stars, and other marks. We don't know what the marks mean but they suggest different emissions from the mint.

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  14. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    EXCELLENT! Can you tell me what the 2 right most columns refer to?
     
  15. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Like mine.

    Obv:– VRBS ROMA, Helmeted bust of Roma left
    Rev:– None, She wolf feeding Romulus and Remus, two stars above
    Minted in Lugdunum (*SLG). A.D. 334-335
    Reference:– Bastien XIII 259. RIC VII Lyons 267 (R3)
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  16. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    The center column, which says R3 and R3, refers to the supposed rarity of the P and S mint marks, respectively.

    THIS MEANS NOTHING in terms of difficulty in finding one for sale or price; it refers to how many examples of the coin were known from major European museum collections at the time the RIC was written.

    The far-right column refers to references in which the coins appear, L being short for Late Roman Bronze Coinage by Carson, Hill and Kent.
     
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  17. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    The abbreviations are collections...L stands for L(ondon) British Museum; V stands for V(ienna) and Ox. stands for Ox(ford) Ashmolean Museum.
     
  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice URBS commem.

    Mine is similar, but it does not have a star or crescent before the mint mark... or perhaps they are off flan?

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    Time of Constantine and Sons
    AE Follis, 17mm, 2.3g, 12h; Lyons mint, AD 330-331
    Obv.: VRBS ROMA; Helmeted bust of Roma wearing imperial mantle left.
    Rev.: She-wolf standing left, with Romulus and Remus suckling beneath, two stars above // SLG
    Reference: RIC VII Lyons 242, r2, p. 138
    Ex: @John Anthony
     
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  19. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the correction.
     
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  21. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    Thanks!

    Anyone on this post got any tips for best coin photographs? I've been using my cell phone so far lol.
     
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