A coin of Saladin

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Orfew, May 4, 2017.

  1. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Ok, it's not fair to critique Orfew's list without getting some skin in the game. I guess the only rule here is that each figure must have an available coin. I don't collect in this fashion, but if I did, here's my short list:

    ROMAN & BYZANTINE

    Julius Caesar
    Augustus
    Caligula
    Nero
    Hadrian
    Marcus Aurelius
    Diocletian
    Constantine I
    Justinian

    GREEK

    Alexander

    ENGLISH

    Offa
    [Alfred the Great??]
    Edward III
    Elizabeth I
     
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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice list. I have all but:
    Offa
    [Alfred the Great??]
    Edward III

    I like Philip II ... the REAL Mastermind of Makedon!
     
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  4. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Yes, I like the list. I need the same ones that @Alegandron does except I still need Marcus Aurelius as well. Diocletian is not on my list but perhaps he should be.
     
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  5. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Guys, you might want to add some Chinese... Emperor Qin, etc...

    I even have the last Shogun of Japan.

    Perhaps Genghiz Kahn, Timor-i-lane, Kublai, etc...

    Now if we could figure out Mayan and Aztec coins/currency...

    Don't forget scarabs from noted Egyptian rulers... not coins, but cool historical placemarkers by Rulers...
     
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  6. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    I would love a coin of Qin shi Huangdi ! Yep, I think the first emperor of all of China is a significant historical figure. I did not even realize they would be available.
     
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  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I have 3 from Qin. Several other various Chinese Emperors... been there so many times, I had to start collecting them.
     
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  8. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    I have a coin of Chingiz, I forgot him on my list. I have looked at coins of Tamerlane. I just need to decide between the Tanka, the Dirham, or 2 Dirham.

    Well off I go to find a coin of Qin.
     
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  9. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Here is mine.
    Naumann lot 1007 May 7.jpg

    OTTOMAN EMPIRE. Sulayman I Qanuni (AH 926-974 / 1520-1566 AD). GOLD Sultani. Misr (Cairo) mint. Dated AH 926 (1520/1 AD).
    Obv: Legend.
    Rev: Legend, with mint and AH date.
    Pere 181; Album 1317.
    Condition: Very fine.
    Weight: 3.38 g.
    Diameter: 20 mm.
     
  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    CONGRATS!!! Nice!
     
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  11. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    So I just received my budget version of the “figures/planets mourning Saladin” coin struck by the Artuqids of Mardin, photographed here. But in doing research on the coin, I keep encountering a dating problem. I don’t have any research materials at hand for the coin, so I’m relying on VCoins descriptions that typically list a date of 589 A.H. for the coin–in other words, 589 years after the Hegira, which is how time is reckoned in the Muslim world. The sources I’m encountering claim that the coin was struck at the time of Saladin’s death. Since the Hegira occurred in 622 A.D., then the striking of the coin would have occurred in 1211 A.D. (589+622). But sources for the death of Saladin claim that he died in 1193 A.D.—not even close to 1211 A.D. And I have seen other sources equate 589 A.H. with 1193 A.D., though that math doesn't make sense to me. What am I missing here? Is there some calendaring quirk that would account for this 18 year discrepancy?

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  12. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Yes, the formula to use is :
    CE = 0.970229 × AH + 621.5643

    The wiki page goes into detail. Oh, and I want one of those "struck in the year of Saladin's death" figural bronzes too!
     
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  13. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Ah. Lunar calendar. I should have known that since Ramadan is a "moveable feast." It's good to know I'm not crazy--at least not for this reason. Thanks!
     
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  16. PMONNEY

    PMONNEY Flaminivs

    I admire your gold coin of Saladin, my coins of this Kurdish hero are more modest siver and bronze as follows Mint: Damascus, silver and bronze, except Aleppo - silver star.
     

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  17. PMONNEY

    PMONNEY Flaminivs

    Congratulations for your gold coin of Saladin, mine are more modest,silver and bronze, as follows. Mints Alep (silver star), Damascus, (other silver ans Bronze)
     

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  18. PMONNEY

    PMONNEY Flaminivs

    Same coin, same interpretation !
     

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