1932-S WASHINGTON & 1918-S STANDING LIBERTY - REAL OR FAKE

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  1. sestak

    sestak New Member

    Hello everyone,
    I am considering buying these two coins, but I'm not completely sure about it's genuineness.
    I think these coins both are genuine but the low price and the fact that I'm buying it in the Czech republic made me suspicious.
    If you think these coins are genuine can you, please, estimate the value.
    I had inherited my grandfather's coins collection so I'm new in coins collecting. I will appreciate every information.
     

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  3. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    Hard to tell from photos. Looks like an 18/17. If genuine very valuable coins
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    I would pass, Eastern European sources are too chancy
     
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  5. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Don't the rims look funny on the 32s, and there are pimples by the Q in Quarter on the SL quarter. I'd be scared, especially considering the seller's location.
     
  6. sestak

    sestak New Member

    I agree the rims look weird. I didn't even notice the pimples.
     
  7. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

  8. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I believe these are both fake.
     
  9. sestak

    sestak New Member

    Can you tell me why? I'd like to know the details so I can recognize the fake coin by myself next time.
     
  10. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    The color and the surfaces of the 1932 looks strange to me. It's like a lot of the fake stuff that comes from China. Maybe just the way it was imaged. I would not take the risk.
     
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  11. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    If it seems to good to be true it usually is.
    If there is even one suspicious aspect of a coin, such as color, bubbles on surfaces ext.
    Look at enough and you will start to understand. That being said even the best get burned sometimes. Good luck to ya
     
  12. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    I agree there is something amiss. I don't like the rim on the 32. Both seem to have overly porous surfaces. I'd keep looking.
     
  13. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Buy from a reputable dealer, who accepts returns.
    "No I think I will buy from some former Iron Curtain eastern bloc country,
    who most likely has no way to even have these genuine coins, and take a chance on a cheap price that they are not bogus counterfeits."
    Don't make yourself a sucker.
     
  14. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    One of the things that is hard to explain, is that after years of seriously looking at coins, you get a feel for what looks right. The 32-S jumps out as wrong. While it’s a little risky to make judgments based on photos, the coin looks grainy, similar to cast piece. The rims certainly do not look correct either. The SLQ looks better but it is also grainy. Look at the rough areas under LIBERTY and on the bench at 7-9 O’clock on the obv. Also notice the weak rims at 4:00 and on the rev. It also has the same rim anomaly as the 32-S that looks like a misaligned die (but it isn’t). Even without seeing them in hand, they are screaming “CAST FAKES” at me. Add into that, the 2 rare coins are in a location that isn’t known as a hotbed of US collecting activity. I’ve been wrong before, but I’d stay away from them.


    I got some good advice years ago when I started adding key dates to my collection. Try to learn the characteristics of the coins you want. There is a lot of research out there that can show you die markers, mm locations, striking characteristics of the key dates. It helped me avoid a fake 1909-SVDB back in the days when slabbing was just getting started.
     
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  15. sestak

    sestak New Member

    Thank you very much Oldhoopster for whole description, that's what I was looking for. I appreciate it.
     
  16. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    I agree with Oldhoopster's comments. When buying key coins that are often faked, go with one of the major certification services (ANACS, NGC, PCGS).
     
  17. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Is it me or does the mint mark on the quarter look out of place (bold as opposed to the rest of the strike on both sides being soft)?
     
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  18. thebeav

    thebeav Lifer

    No doubt that those coins are 'Bad'.
    When I see a coin lot, or group, and the first coin I look at is counterfeit, I won't bother going further. One bad usually means all bad.
    Look at the motto on the Washington..... Look at the reverse lettering.....Neither cast out very well. Almost no definition or relief whatsoever.
     
  19. slamster17

    slamster17 Junior Member

    Look an awful lot like 3 fake foreign thaler sized coins I pulled out of a collection at work today. Bet they are magnetic. Don't like the rims.
     
  20. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    larger images would help, but bad rims and granular looking surfaces make me head in the opposite direction.
     
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  21. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Why even think of buying from Eastern Europe when there are so many legitimate sources in the US and other major countries?
     
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