A tiny coin of Arcadius

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  1. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I've had this AE4 of Arcadius (383-408 C.E.), emperor of the East, for about a year. It came out of a hoard of late Roman bronze that also included several others of this emperor, plus Honorius and Theodosius II, along with Valens, Valentinian, and Jovian.

    While small, it is in pretty good condition. Obverse: bust of Arcadius, draped and diademed, facing right. Reverse: Salvs Reipublicae, Salus advancing left.

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    arcadius2.jpg

    Appears to be from the mint at Antioch. Please show your coins of this somewhat pusillanimous emperor, who ruled at a time when the west was in steady decline.
     
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

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  4. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I read somewhere that some roman coins had been found in the harbor of Rio de Janeiro in the past few years. The story kind of came and went. Were they the property of an earlier collector who somehow lost them at sea, maybe in a shipwreck? Or did a roman vessel veer far off course and end up shipwrecked there. Interesting question. Finding an ancient on U.S. soil is fascinating - neat story!
     
  5. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    The most photogenic one I could find of these difficult to photograph little coins:

    Arcadius Cyzicus AE-4.jpg
    Arcadius, AD 383-408
    Roman Æ half-centenionalis; 1.15 g, 14.2 mm
    Cyzicus, AD 388-392
    Obv: D N ARCADIVS P F AVG, pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust, right
    Rev: SALVS REIPVBLICAE, Victory advancing left, with right hand carrying trophy over shoulder and dragging captive with left; in left field, SMKΓ in exergue.
    Refs: RIC 26(c); LRBC 2578; RCV 20851
     
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  6. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    what is in the left field is actually a Staurogram ⳨ (which means monogram of the cross). It is made by superimposing a Tau (T) on a Rho (P) and is also called a Tau-Rho.

    There is a theory that the use of this symbol may be a pictographic representation of Jesus crucified.

    The image below shows three monograms - Left to right: The staurogram or Tau-Rho, the Chi-Rho monogram formed by the first two letters in "Christ", and the Iota-Chi monogram composed of the initials for "Jesus Christ."


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  7. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    AE3, that coin was struck in Constantinople. RIC X- 66 A Arcadius         LRBC2205.jpg ArcadConst    RIC X-66A.jpg
     
  8. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    i believe these two are Arcadius coins, i've got them listed along with Honorius and and Theo the dad. correct me if i'm wrong. Honorius Arcadius Theodosius and poss. Crispus 010.JPG Honorius Arcadius Theodosius and poss. Crispus 011.JPG Honorius Arcadius Theodosius and poss. Crispus 012.JPG Honorius Arcadius Theodosius and poss. Crispus 016.JPG
     
  9. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

    My four 20170409_161545.jpg 20170409_161555.jpg 20170409_161609.jpg 20170409_161623.jpg 20170409_161641.jpg 20170409_161647.jpg 20170409_162135.jpg 20170409_162145.jpg AE4 coins of Arcadius:
     
  10. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i have this little 11 mm arcadius....

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    Arcadius, AE4, 388-392 AD

    O: D N ARCADIVS P F AVG R: SALVS REIPVBLICAE, Victory advancing left, dragging captive, Chi-Rho in left field. CONS? in ex. Constantinople mint. 11 mm, 1.5 g

    i had to get mine out and look at it with a magnifier, but i think mine is actually the tau rho and not the chi rho also...interesting.
     
  11. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Yes, but I'm limited by what characters are available in unicode.
     
  12. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    "The staurogram is encoded by Unicode in the Coptic block, at U+2CE8⳨Coptic Tau Rho, and as of Unicode 7.0 (2014) also in the Ancient Symbols block, at U+101A0greek symbol tau rho."
     
  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice Arcadius @ancient coin hunter ... that is a wee little thing. I have several of my later Emperors in that small size. It is amzaing that folks would use coinage so tiny for everyday spending: "Here... here is a dot of bronze, I will take that chicken for supper tonite!"

    My Arcadii:

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  14. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Well, let's see if that works here: ⳨

    Nope. Just a white square.
     
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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm, I guess posting my big, fancy, glammy AR Arcadius would be wrong, eh?

    => man, I love wrong!!


    Arcadius.jpg

    :rolleyes:

    => Oh, but I'm totally jealous of your cool AE posts (man, I need more coins!)

    Congrats
     
  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I see your TAU RHO...
     
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  17. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Between us all we have quite a variety of these little coins. Few will be found that are perfect in every way but being able to read the mintmark and see the Tau Rho clearly makes the coin collectible IMO.
    Antioch with tall TP
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    Constantinople with stubby TP ry7960bb2135.jpg
     
  19. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Arcadius
    A.D. 384- 388
    18mm 2.2gm
    DN ARCADIVS P F AVG; pearl diademed, draped in imperial mantle, holding mappa and scepter (maybe).
    GLORIA REI-PVBLICE; campgate with two turrets, Tau-Rho between them.
    In ex. TES
    RIC IX Thessalonica 59c


    Arcadius Thess 59.JPG
     
  20. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Here's another one of Arcadius, I believe. Obverse, bust of Arcadius facing right, draped and diademed. Reverse, emperor being crowned by Victory with the legend Virtus Exerciti

    arcadius3.jpg

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  21. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    http://www.ssssllc.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Romans-in-Rio.pdf
    An interesting read.
    ri198.jpg Arcadius
    392 to 395 AD
    Cyzicus
    AE 3
    Obvs: DN ARCADIVS PF AVG, Pearl diademed and cuirassed.
    Revs: GLORIA ROMANORVM, Emperor on horseback. SMKB
    15x16mm, 1.7g
    lr001.jpg
    Arcadius
    383 AD
    Cyzicus
    AE 4
    Obvs: DN ARCADIVS PF AVG
    Revs: VOT V, in wreath. SMKA(Δ)
    16mm, 1.1g
    ri148.jpg
    Arcadius
    383 to 408 AD
    Mint: Mediolanum
    AR Siliqua
    Obvs: DN ARCADIVS PF AVG, Pearl diademed, draped and cuirassed right.
    Revs: VIRTVS ROMANORVM, Rome seated left on cuirass, holding Victory on globe and reversed spear. MDPS
    14x15mm, 1.1g
     
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