Should I post my pending newp here before I've even mailed the check on it?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by lordmarcovan, May 11, 2017.

  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    There are three nice newps coming, actually.

    Being the eclectic soul I am, they're from the three main categories in my Box of 20.
    1. Is an Ancient coin.
    2. Is a World coin.
    3. Is a US coin.
    We're only discussing the Ancient here.

    I am swapping away the most valuable coin in my set, essentially splitting that investment into these three pieces.

    So yes, they are, in my humble opinion, all very nice coins on my budget.

    My most valuable single piece (@$2,300) has been my most valuable (monetarily, not sentimentally) by a factor of more than 2x. It is/was the only one I paid a four-figure price for.

    So now everything in my collection will have had a <$1K pricetag. I'm more comfortable with that, really. On my salary, I don't have any business buying or holding four-figure coins. I'll stay in three-figure territory (if only just). Granted, I do have three or four that are arguably worth >$1K (if only just). And one of these new three was a $975 coin, so barely below the $1K ceiling.

    I swapped my keystone coin to a dealer who is sending me Coin #2 and Coin #3 mentioned above (the World and US coins). There was money left over to my credit, so I'm getting a check, too.

    That check will buy Coin #1 (the Ancient) with a little to spare.

    I told the dealer who is sending Coins #2 and 3 that I'll keep mum about the deal until both parties express satisfaction and it's a done deal. (The commitment is made but shipping and final approvals are pending.)

    I have committed to buy Coin #1 (the Ancient) regardless, and will, one way or another. So I have not promised to keep mum on that, but I will, until somebody guesses what it is. That dealer is just giving me the courtesy of waiting until the first dealer's check gets to me. The two dealers know and do business with each other, so it's kind of a triangle.

    All three coins i am getting are already third-party certified and graded, as was the one I'm trading away (it is also fourth-party certified, by CAC). Not that most of you will care a fig that the Ancient is already in NGC plastic.

    (Except perhaps my fellow misguided plasticizer @Deacon Ray, LOL. And FWIW, it'll be the first NGC "star" I've had, so I can emulate @Zohar444 in a tiny way- he has more "stars" than Hollywood.)

    Now, the remaining question is whether I'm going to expand my Box of 20 into a Box of 25 (I've actually been using a 25-slot slab box for a year). Or will I stick with a limit of 20 and then have some extras to sell? Time will tell.

    (Looking up at my post now. Dang, I type too much, don't I? Maybe I should have a self-imposed word limit instead of a coin limit, huh? Geez.)
     
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator


    OK, @stevex6 - you totally nailed it. Guessing game over. And so soon, too.

    ... or ... not. ;)

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  4. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    You introduced me to the Box of 20 concept - seeing you consider deviating is sacrilegious! ;) But, I think as long as the mentality of quality over quantity is followed, 20, 25, 30, ... are all acceptable. I do very much like the concept of a finite number and swapping out to stick within that boundary but there are extenuating circumstances where exceptions can be made.
     
  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Nobody's even come close to guessing the Ancient Newp.

    Though there's a hint that's been repeated several times now. ;)

    Seems quite blatant to me, but that's because it's my collection. Anyone else might have missed the hint.

    I feel like somebody that got a (subtle but noticeable) new hairdo or shirt, and nobody noticed. LOL
     
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  6. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Something featuring caps.
     
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  7. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Mt. Argaeus
     
  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    No, but I will be getting a new cap with one of these transactions, actually (not the one involving the ancient coin we're guessing at).

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    No, but those are neat.
     
  9. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    Make them beg~!
     
  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I missed seeing the $2300 coin but as I understood your gameplan you need to delete two more to get back to 20. I'd say your weakest ancients are the Amisos and the Septimius but what I would do is give your daughter the half eagle and allow yourself the whole 20 all to yourself without borrowing one.

    I can warm up to the box of 20 idea as long as we take Ancient Joe's plan for increasing the box size as needed. So far this year I have bought about 70 new coins so I'm selecting about 70 and sending them to John Anthony for disposal. Maybe, with a great deal of self control, I could end the year with no more than 3500 coins but will consider the AJ factor and allow boxes of 4000, 4500 and 5000 as needed (if I live that long). :)
     
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  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    The $2300 coin was the half-eagle, so yes, technically my daughter's, but she's not into collecting and is letting me play around with her investment (which came from the old Victorian type set I built her in 2001-2012). Swapping away the Dahlonega half-eagle rids me of a US coin (which are slightly less interesting to me), but I'll be getting a different US coin, as mentioned. Whether my new "investments" flop in the ten years or so before my daughter "cashes out" remains to be seen. She'll get some money from me regardless, so it's like she has a $2300+ IOU and is totally fine with that.

    You're right that some pruning of the set is due. The Amisos owl is one of the lower value coins but recent (I got it in December), and I like owls, so it'll stay for a little while. The Septimius Severus has been "on deck" for removal from the box for a while. Not that it's a bad coin at all. I rather like it, in fact. But I like all of 'em, of course. So yes, the SeptSev will go before too long.

    But I do think I'm going to expand to a Box of 25 soon (the actual size of my box- I've been using the five spare slots for pieces "in transit" and a magnifier and stuff). I don't think stretching to 25 will be diluting things too much.

    Nobody's seen the hint, eh? Well, it's popped up several times. Here it comes again, in just a moment...
     
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  12. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i think it's a great idea to limit the size of your collection. i'm also doing one box of coins, when i fill this thing up...i'm not getting any more.


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    :D
     
  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    That's your three-piece Yap Island minor-denominations type set, right?
     
  14. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Have I finally met someone with less patience than me?:D
     
  15. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    I have always maintained a small collection. Currently I have 19 Greek and 54 Roman, but it is easy for me as a dealer. Collections are often the seeds of an inventory. Sometimes I put coins in my inventory that later go to my collection, and from the collection to the inventory. I have no interest in quantity or quality (in fact I much prefer coins which show wear). I just collect those that interest me or 'talk to me'. There is no method to my madness. So far this year I think I've bought only two coins for my collection.

    But then again I have other interests. Recently I was going through an old steamer trunk (once belonging to my great, great Aunts, who was a silent film star back in the day and where I store lots of goodies). I found two cartoon production cels from the movie Heavy Metal and the series Rocko's Modern Life. I had forgotten that I 'kind of' collected these (I remember many other cels, which I later sold). Cool, but I dont have wall space to display them. What to do? Coins take up so little space!
     
  16. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    Okay, you have my interest...I'd love to hear more about this!
     
  17. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Um. Quite possibly? :shy:

    But only when I'm in the manic cycle of my bipolarity.

    When the pendulum swings to the other (depressive) extreme, I can spend up to two or three months being a reclusive hermit, not posting at all, and not even looking at my coins.

    I run hot and cold. Fortunately I do hit equilibrium between cycles, when I can be relatively "normal". o_O
     
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  18. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    Well, she went by many stage names which confuses even the family. My mother still has plenty of 'head shots' of her. I do remember that she played a part in the later sound series 'The Adventures of Catherine'. I looked it up years ago and learned that no copies survive. She was quite the character. A few years ago we found and opened another steamer trunk and found a lot of 'flapper' era outfits. Also a bunch of coins from her travels. I dont know what happened to those.

    Getting off topic here, but what the heck. My grandparents came across from Ireland to the US on the Lusitania. I didn't believe the story at first as I knew they were both in Ireland when they died. Looking through the Ellis Island records I saw it was true. There were their names, and the ship they came on. Why did they go back to Ireland? I have no idea, though there are some family rumors. Kind of cool to have that connection, and amazing that the ship was ultimately sank off the coast of Ireland.
     
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  19. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Don't tempt fate (we ancient collectors know about fate, don't we?) by posting things before you actually have them.

    If you would love to post it now, you will love to post it when your finally get it. Take the time in between to compose a really good write up.
     
  20. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Fortuna is watching:
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  21. Iosephus

    Iosephus Well-Known Member

    Nice pegasus.
     
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