Does anyone know what the Mint plans to issue for Grover Cleveland?

Will President Cleveland have 2 coins (1 for each seperate presdiency, 22nd and 24th respectively) or one coin that covers both presidencies? My guess is one coin, but with them being manufactured by our government, and politics being what they are... you never know.

Any thoughts?

 

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Definitely, two coins; one for each term.
See the mint web site.

 

How come they don't list any coin for Regan? And what about Carter, Bush, and Clinton? Do they get coins after they die or will the program have been scrapped by then?

 

Reagan was alive when the list was made, they will add him in his turn.

So you want them to anticipate a date for the others?
(The Secret Service may question that.)
They are still breathing.

 

As I understand it, the program will continue until they run of eligible presidents, but they have to be dead for 2 years to be eligible.

According to wikipedia,

"Even though it would take about 11 years to honor all the Presidents (George W. Bush is the 43rd President and the act allows for a coin for each of Grover Cleveland's two non-consecutive terms), the series may not run that long. The act specifies that in order for a President to be honored, he or she must have been dead for at least two years; the series will end when all the then-eligible Presidents have been honored. [5] If a President does not meet the requirements at the time he would be honored with a coin then he is skipped and the next President who served after him meeting the requirements will be honored. Once the program has terminated, continuation of the series for non-honored Presidents will require another act of Congress. [6]
If Jimmy Carter survives until 2014, he will be skipped and Ronald Reagan will be the next honored. If all currently living Presidents survive to within two years of Reagan's coin, then his coin will end the program".

 

They have to have been dead for two years before the issue date, and if I'm not mistaken if a predecessor president is living, the deceased will not be be honored on a coin.

 

This gets asked a lot... the rules as they stand for the program is that each president will be honored, in the order in which they served, if they have been dead for at least 2 years when their term comes up. Even though Reagan would otherwise qualify, he can not be honored unless Carter dies between now and 2014, else he would be honored out of order. The program ends when the last president who qualifies at the time their turn comes up. No other presidents will be honred after the program ends under the current legislation; it would take an act of Congress to do otherwise.

Currently the program is only guaranteed to continue up to and including Gerald Ford. It may continue longer depending on the lifespans of current and future former presidents.

First spouse coins have the same restrictions, plus the first ladies can only be honored at the same time the president they were married to is. Currently the first spouse program is only guaranteed to continue up to and including Jacky Kennedy (though it's very likely Lady Bird Johnson, now 94, will die before her term comes up).

 

Honestly I can't see Carter living another 7 years, he's looking pretty frail.

 

How could Reagan have been alive when the list was draw up? He died over 3 years ago!

Ruben

 

Since she passed on on July 11, I'd say there's a 100% probability that she will qualify!

 

Lets not forget Gerald Ford who elected him

 

President ford is on the list, He died in January of this year. They just forgot Regan

 

He died June 5, 2004.
The legislation wasn't passed until 2005.

However, the legislation doesn't have a list of names. It just specified the conditions for including the presidents.

 

Didn't hear about that, I guess a former first lady dying just doesn't rate as prominent news coverage as a former president dying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_bird_johnson

Guess that means the first lady series is guaranteed to at least Pat Nixon now (Betty Ford's still alive; I checked this time!.)

 

As I said before, Reagan's not been forgotton, he just can't be honored unless Carter is by the time his turn comes up, meaning that Reagan won't be honored unless Carter dies between now and 2014. As it stands now the president series is guaranteed to run up to and including Gerald Ford and the first lady series is guaranteed to run up to and including Pat Nixon. They may run longer depending on the former presidents' and first ladies' lifespans.

 

I don't think that's right. If Carter is still alive in 2014, then Reagan will be honored out of order in 2016 and that would be the end of the series. If Carter dies before then, they'd be honored in order and the series would go another year. However, If all the other ex-presidents are still alive at the end of 2015, then the series would end with Reagan.

 

It is. As the legislation is currently written, a president can't be honored until the previous president has been. As it stands Nixon and Ford are due to be honored in 2016. If by 2016 Carter doesn't qualify, Ford will end the series. If he dies by 2014 Carter will qualify (since the president must have been dead for at least 2 years to be honored, this means Carter would have to die between now and about August 2014 to qualify), and so will Reagan.

Theoretically in 2017 would be George H. W. Bush, Clinton, George W. Bush, and whatever president serves next after him, if the series doesn't end before then.

 

The legislation (PRESIDENTIAL $1 COIN ACT OF 2005) doesn't say that. It says:

Paragraph 2(E): "No coin issued under this subsection may bear the image of a living former or current President, or of any deceased former President during the 2-year period following the date of the death of that president."

and

Paragraph: 8: "TERMINATION OF PROGRAM.—The issuance of coins
under this subsection shall terminate when each President
has been so honored, subject to paragraph (2)(E), and may
not be resumed except by an Act of Congress."

If I'm missing where it says that all previous presidents have to be honored, before a new one can be honored, could you point out the relevant section of the law?

 

There will indeed be two. The first will featuer Grover Cleveland.
The second Grover from Sesame Street.

Sorry, had to do that.

 

When President Chester Arthur turn comes around we will have Alice Paul

Alice Paul as represented, in the case of President Chester Alan Arthur, by a design incorporating the name and likeness of Alice Paul, a leading strategist in the suffrage movement, who was instrumental in gaining women the right to vote upon the adoption of the 19th amendment and thus the ability to participate in the election of future Presidents, and who was born on January 11, 1885, during the term of President Arthur


This could have happen to Jefferson spouse coin but then Dolley would have been used twice

Dolley Madison occasionally acted as what is now described as first lady of the United States during the administration of Jefferson, fulfilling the ceremonial functions more usually associated with the President's wife, since Jefferson was a widower.Her name has been widely misspelled as "Dolly".