Syracuse- Was I right to pass?

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  1. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    Looking at his other offerings, seemed like he was at full retail plus 20%. Dealer was asking $1300.

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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    No clue, looks OK though and its lovely.
     
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  5. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    It looks to me as if the fine lines in the horses' legs and tails have been enhanced through some sharpening. Compare this to the softer detail in the angel figure at 12 o'clock to see what I mean -- it's somewhat strange that fine details would be soft on one area of this coin and sharp on a nearby area, when both areas have about the same relief.
     
  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    H8 ... that is a wonderful coin-type

    Ummm, but you're probably wise to dodge that particular example, for even though AR coins aren't typically tooled, Ides may be on to something with his above-comments? (but I totally suck at that type of coin-sleuthing => the coin might be totally fine?) ...

    ... "but if there is a doubt, then there is no doubt"

    Regardless, I am happy to see you trying to score one of these beauties

    =>
    here is my sweet, sweet example ...

    Sicily, Syracuse. Hieron I AR Tetradrachm (240 Onkia)
    478-466 BC
    Struck circa 478-475 BC
    Diameter: 24 mm
    Weight: 16.90 grams
    Obverse: Charioteer driving quadriga right; above, Nike flying right, crowning horses
    Reverse: Diademed head of Arethusa right; four dolphins around
    Reference: Boehringer series IXa, 190 (V86/R130); SNG ANS –; Randazzo 356 (same dies)
    Other: 2h, Near VF, toned, test cut on reverse
    From the Robert and Julius Diez Collection, Ex Gustav Philipsen Collection (Part I, J. Hirsch XV, 28 May 1906), lot 1132


    Syracuse Hieron I.jpg

    This is my "2nd" most expensive coin (one of a few real outliers, actually) ... drugs & booze make me a better collector (that's right, kids!! ... oh sorry, just jokes)

    I love this coin (no regrets) => $1365 (delivered)

    Ummm, if you're planning-on spending these "big bucks" you should probably wait for a coin that you know that you love!! (there should be no "coin-settling" when you're spending that kinda dough, my friend)

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  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Just an aside here.........H8? I have this app on my computer called EXIF viewer and when I run the mouse pointer over your picture, information about your photo pops up along with an GPS locator. You may want to disable that GPS thingy when you take pictures.
     
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  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Green? => why do you have this creepy coin-spy-ware?

    ... *awkward* ...

    Ummm, GPS locator?! ... what are my coins tellin' ya?

    Hey, there are Cat-houses where folks who like cats, merely go to play with cats

    :oops:

     
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  9. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    When I 'mouse over' yours Steve it says 'EXIF Not Found'
     
  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    That's because you checked one of the pictures taken by his seller. If you check the metadata on pictures he took, it's a different story ;) :D


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  11. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Suuuuuure it does...wink wink
     
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  12. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Thanks Tif........I gots a 'bead' on him now......... devil.gif
     
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  13. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    O youse peeps are crackin' me up><
     
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  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    And Shoot........when did Steve get the blind squirrel avatar?
     
  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Listen to TIF. She would not steer you wrong.

    I liked the original coin but I think most of these are overpriced for the grade lately. There are $900 and $1300 coins of the type but I'm not sure I'd go that for either. Of the two, I prefer the $1300 one. I bought mine because I'm cheap and I'm spoiled. Neither are high grade but they are spoiled and cheap about as much as their current caretaker. The second one cost more because I wanted the die break. Some people are weird.
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  16. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I think you're about on the mark with your estimation there.

    Here's one (albeit not the exact type) perhaps a grade lower with a slightly unround flan, but bought last year for half the asking price of the OP.

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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I have one of those Gelons also...

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    Syracuse
    Tyrant Gelon 458-478 BCE
    AR Tet 24mm 16.7g
    Slow Biga Victory
    Artemus-Arethusa 4 dolphins
    Sear-Greek 914
    ex. Reeve Collection
     
  18. @H8_modern I like the Obverse detail, although the strike is a little bit off flan. I would pay close to $1000 for it; but who am I? I have 2; both not as nice.

    I paid too much for this one:(I recall $300ish)
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    This one was just about right at $500ish:
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    -Michael
     
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