1943 Steel Cent - New Variety or Just Grease Filled Die?

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  1. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    I'm considering getting this but I'm not sure if it's simply a grease filled die, or some other neat phenomenon. I see a darkened impression where the "4" is; but at the same time, the missing "4" digit seems nearly perfect with the device area flat and flush with the surrounding fields. Is it possible that the "4" digit was weak on the die or hub, and later reworked to make a stronger "4" numeral, with most of the struck ones removed and melted? Or, is it just PMD? And, is the "3" numeral doubled - MD or DDO?

    Thanks in advance!

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  3. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I would say a grease filled digit, but what is that, that looks almost like a perfect 3 in the field above the date? That is very interesting.
     
  4. Coinman1974

    Coinman1974 Research, Research, Research

    Definitely a curious cent!
     
  5. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    Does the middle look doubled?

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  6. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    I isolated what I think you're referring to and overlayed it on top of the "3".

    It could be a random coincidental hit.

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  7. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    For some reason the 4 was a very common place for grease to build up on this coin. I have several and have seen quite a few others
     
  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    A dropped digit perhaps
     
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  9. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    After enlarging the photo I am seeing pretty much the whole digit (plus the hit to the top of it)
     
  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    And it by my eye looks to be the same style 3 as in type style .
     
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  11. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    I think I see what you're talking about.

    The "3" is tilted counter-clockwise by 45 degrees.
     
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  12. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    They're cockeyed like that, it's just normal. It's a greased 4. Cool coin.
     
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  13. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    I've seen partially missing 4 via greased dies.

    Do you know if a completely missing 4 is more-or-less common?
     
  14. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I've seen them like yours. These aren't like the "No D"/"Weak D" 1922-D cents. Nobody is going to pay extra for 10 or 20% more grease. :)
     
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  15. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    Thanks good to know.
     
  16. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    It's not the 3 in the date we are seeing but a 3 in the field above the date. It's easier to see when enlarged. I don't really think it's a eye playing trick by looking too long at something, it really appears to be there. Why and how, I don't have a clue.
     
  17. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    This is the 3 in the fields that's being referred to.

    My trace isn't that good though lol.

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  18. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Well, there's no resemblance to the long, thin, straight bottom curve of the 3 in the date....
     
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  20. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Good stuff! ;)
     
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