Caligula denarius, help.

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by urundael, May 1, 2017.

  1. urundael

    urundael New Member

    Hi, i've recently discovered this denarius, and searching on the internet i've found it's from Caligula with Agrippina and I was surprised this kind of denarius are not that common and usually expensive. Sadly, the soil here is extremely acid, so the coin is more than corroded and has a chip on one side due to agricultural work I guess. So my question is, what would be its value in your opinion?

    Sorry for my english and thanks in advance! IMG_20170501_190949.jpg IMG_20170501_191021.jpg
     
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  3. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

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    in worn condition my coin 2.3 g
     
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  4. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    While these Caligula/Agrippina denarii are scarce, yours is in relatively poor condition, and the chip on the reverse will further detract from its value.

    You can do a search of VCoins dealers (try searching www.vcoins.com for the phrase "caligula agrippina denarius") and you'll find only one for sale in somewhat similar condition to yours. It's being offered by a dealer for U.S. $170, but I doubt the dealer will be able to sell it for this price.

    Possibly your coin could benefit from some cleaning, especially if it was found in its current condition via metal detecting or some sort of excavation. There are many threads on this site that are helpful for cleaning ancient coins, and a number of collectors here who are quite accomplished at cleaning, so I will defer to their opinions.
     
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  5. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

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    lol fourree for 170 euro vcoins no way
     
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  6. urundael

    urundael New Member

    Thanks for the replies! I'll take it into account and take a look on other parts of forum for those tips. I'm kind of new to this kind of world, but from what i've read (minutes ago) a fourree has a core from other metal than silver, and i don't think this is the case, 'cause from the chip it looks pretty silverish!
     

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  7. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    If you have a scale, the weight will be a good indicator if it is a fourree. If it is much Less than 3.0 grams it will most likely be. If it's closer to 4, it should be a non fourree.
     
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  8. urundael

    urundael New Member

    The precision scale is without batteries, but the "analogic" one shows that it weights slightly less than 4 grams.
     
  9. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Tenths are a big deal in this case, unfortunately a weight of say 3.5g won't tell you too much either way. A very low 3 and especially in the 2.Xg range will indicate a fourree.
     
  10. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    my coin 2.3 g
     
  11. urundael

    urundael New Member

    The precision scale gives me a 3.7
     
  12. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    That's only .2 or so below the 'standard'. What is your goal with this coin?
     
  13. urundael

    urundael New Member

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  14. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    I ask because cleaning will reveal what it is. You are close enough in weight that it could still be a fourree after the deposits are removed. Just be aware that you may be disappointed with the results of cleaning, it may reveal a pitted or unpleasant surface. Congratulations on the find.
     
  15. urundael

    urundael New Member

    In that case I think I'll keep it the way it is, 'cause I have the feeling I would mess it like Mr Bean with the portrait haha. Anyway, thank you for the insights, if I find another treasure I'll post it!
     
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