My Gold error coin grades posted... why did they not call them errors?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by jwitten, Apr 29, 2017.

  1. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    My 3 gold error coins just posted, and I have a guess the grade going on them. Post here too if you want. It looks like they did not label any of them as errors, even though I paid for them too, and 2 of them for SURE are. What's up with that?
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  3. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    And here are some other examples of the 2 that are for sure error coins:
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  4. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Yup. Legit error gold, and PCGS took the money and ran. I'd push back on them for the high price they charge for such submissions.
     
  5. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    PCGS charges an absurd fee for errors in light of the other TPGs...
     
  6. BruceS

    BruceS Member

    They charge you for an error submission even if they are not attributed as such. Not cool imo. I would most definitely not be happy either.
     
  7. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    It's not just that. Two of these for SURE are errors, and I think the third might be too, since it straight graded. Why did they not get in error holders? Mistake?
     
  8. BruceS

    BruceS Member

    Idk, maybe different standards for early gold ? What could be their rational? People faking errors? It looks pretty obvious to us, but then again we are not employed as professional graders. I would love to know what the reason they give you, if at all.
     
  9. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Other than mistake, there should be no reason. The 1927 is plain as day retained cud, as exampled in the other pcgs example.
     
  10. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I have a suspicion that PCGS has a list of mint errors they will label as they do for varieties. Many of the varieties we see on the forum would never be attributed by PCGS or NGC. I have sent in many varieties to both, but no mint errors. I can find the list of varieties here http://www.pcgs.com/varietyfaq
    but not an easily found list of mint errors.
     
  11. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    Always grade errors with ANACS imo, they are just the best at them.
     
  12. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    I prefer PCGS for everything but errors. Had a bad experience using their error service as well so use ANACS now for errors.
     
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  13. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    I can possibly see them saying that about the 1910 and 1925-D, but there are multiple examples out there where they graded other 1927 as errors, like the example I posted. Who would I get to fix this??
     
  14. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    Considering the cost, PCGS error grading seems a poor value proposition. With Fred Weinberg at the helm of their error grading staff - and that may be part of the reason for the un-competitive cost of error attribution - there is ABSOLUTELY, UNEQUIVOCALLY no excuse for these coins not being properly attributed.
     
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  15. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    There is a different standard, in a sense, because gold was more carefully produced and any error of this type in a gold coin is much less common than something similar in any other metal. That's why @jwitten is rightly incensed about the results.

    I have nothing printable to say about PCGS.
     
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  16. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It must be a mistake. Let us know what they have to say.
     
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  17. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    I made a post a while back (before submitting) asking if these were errors on the pcgs board, and he said yes on the 1925-D and 1927, and possible on the 1910 (needed to see in hand). He also said my toners were not natural, which I replied saying I thought they were, and posted some of my already graded examples. Hopefully I did not tick him off, resulting in these not getting the error labels.
     
  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I don't think Fred would do that but I would post the results you received in that same thread on PCGS. I'm thinking they will fix it.
     
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  19. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    I have a thread going over there right now, and most seem to think, "oh well, must not be errors"
     
  20. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    I take it your cert numbers don't start with an E?
     
  21. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Correct
     
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