Slightly rough- Tiberius AS

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Smojo, Apr 28, 2017.

  1. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    I'll be honest, I don't know to much about this coin.
    I bought it a few months ago. He spent over a month in several verdicare baths.
    I had it in a interesting list, then at the last minute put in a wee bit over modest bid which landed it in my care.
    I intended to do some research but instead bought more coins and lost track of what I was doing.
    The thing that interested me the most is the reverse, the "Altar of Lugdunum" with the ornate victories.
    It's not the most attractive example I've managed to dig up some info and images. It is one of the most challenging coins I've attempted to photogragh.

    I guess my motive for this thread is to seek out some of your examples, thoughts and information.
    And yes it's my only Tiberius at this time.
    Tiberius-LugdunumAltar[RIC245].jpg
    TIBERIUS AE-AS
    25mm, 10.7g., Lugdunum 12-14 AD
    TI CAESAR AVGVST F IMPERAT VII
    laureate bust right
    ROMET AVG
    front elevation of altar of Lugdunum, decorated in Corona civica between laurels, nude figures and victories.
    RIC 245 [Augustus], Cohen 37

    I'm pretty sure I have it attributed correctly. (?)
    Pile away :D :)
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    My example is just as rough or more so.

    Augustus 2.jpg
    AUGUSTUS
    AE As
    OBVERSE: CAESAR PONT MAX, laureate head right
    REVERSE: Altar of Lugdunum, Victory on each pedestal, ROM ET AVG below
    Lugdunum 15-10 BC
    8.4g, 26mm
    RIC 230
     
  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I'd say the photo is not bad at all considering the glossy surface.

    Red patina
    rb0950bb0175.jpg
     
  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I love all three coins! The busts are all excellent and there is plenty of detail on each, and they all have very different, eye-appealing patinas. Nothing demonstrates the fact that ancient coins all have their own unique personalities, like large bronzes.
     
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  6. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Thanks @dougsmit it's been in verdicare for the past month. I didn't take any before pics, but it had some black gunk, but other than that being gone there's little difference. A little drying time the gloss will fade.
    I was comparing images from wildwinds, wiki and the sort.
    Mine does have some nice detail, as does Bing and Dougs. But never actually seeing another with my own eyes its hard to compare.

    That's why I like this forum, out of all of us there's surely a handful of examples to learn from and the knowledge from everyone is beyond measure.
     
  7. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Something about those Tiberius As, you tend to see a lot more rough ones than good, yours isn't to bad Smojo, I had to soak mine for ages to get green crud of the altar. 20161223_114607.jpg 20161223_114634 (3).jpg
     
  8. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Thanks AA
    I considered trying to clean the green stuff but I was affraid I'd further damage the patina. It didn't come off with the mild cleaning I did and it's not growing.
    It adds character :D
     
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  9. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    i like the reverse on these. i just have a Tiberius As with the S C on it tho. nero, tiberius galba octavian coins 008.JPG nero, tiberius galba octavian coins 010.JPG
     
  10. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    I have to admit I lost a bit of patina, using distilled water and a teaspoon of soda ash which is just a cleaner but the end results were better as you can see the detail now. Below is how it looked prior to cleaning. 2015-01-07 01.08.12-19.jpg
     
  11. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Smojo => congrats on scoring that hot OP-addition (I'm jealous)

    Hmmm, Tiberius , eh?

    I don't have an example of your cool type, but I do have a sweet example of another structure ... ummm, is this baby worthy?

    SPAIN, Emerita. Tiberius, Æ Dupondius
    14-37 AD
    Diameter: 35 mm
    Weight: 23.85 grams
    Obverse: Laureate head left
    Reverse: City-view seen from aerial perspective: city wall with five T-shaped crenellations fronted by main gate consisting of two arched bays flanked by two multi-story crenellated towers, each with arched window; gate inscribed AVGVSTA/EMERITA and decorated with four T-shaped crenellations
    Reference: ACIP 3407a; RPC I 41
    Other: 9h … sweet black patina
    Ex Archer M. Huntington Collection (HSA 1001.1.21689)


    Tiberius Emerita.jpg
     
  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I've never had a Tiberius AE.

    Come to think of it, the only two Tiberius coins I've had were both silver "Tribute Penny" denarii. Two pieces- that's all!

    These bronzes are neat.
     
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  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  14. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I don't have one of that type to show, smojo, but I just wanted to say that is a nice example you have:).
     
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  15. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    @Ancient Aussie the reverse is pretty center and shows more of the altar. I think thats the hang up I have with mine, that the altar is cut off from not a very good center.

    I do wonder now if it would be worth having it cleaned? Like maybe @YOC or @Pishpash

    I appreciate the cool examples and kind words. Thanks all.
     
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  16. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    @Smojo I would leave the green stuff. It is not disfiguring the coin and helps with the highlights. It would not be as attractive if it were removed.
     
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  17. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Great coin!
     
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  18. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Thanks Pish
    I've seen some of your results which is way better than anything I could attempt.
    The more I have it out & look at it the more I like it :D
     
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  19. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    This must be the worst altar of Lugdunum coin in this thread ?

    Augustus S-C Pont Max.jpg
     
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  20. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    My only bronze of Tiberius:

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  21. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    I like very much those ROM ET AVG bronzes depicting the altar of Lugdunum.

    One of the reasons is me living only 40 miles away from Lyon (Lugdunum) : yes old Europe has some neat remains of old civilizations ;)

    Some good examples here, and the reverse on the OP specimen is very clear. I've had one of those in the past but for some (stupid, necessarily stupid) reason parted with it

    Q
     
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