Rarities according to you

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  1. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    I don't want to take away from the other post discussing rarities "according to the ERIC II tabel" but thought it would be interesting to see what coins you have that you consider a rarity. Heres a few of mine.

    I consider my Constantius II one of my rarest FH
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    My unlisted Julia Domna eastern denarii

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    And this this very ugly but very rare Vespasian sestertius
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    edit: I should add this info provided by Curtis Clay

    "The obverse die is A23 in Colin Kraay's unpublished Oxford dissertation, the rev. die P75. Kraay didn't know this die combination, but it is recorded by RIC 70 from a single specimen in the Termopolio Hoard from Pompeii, published in 1997.

    These are rare types: only one other obv. die of the issue shows this combination of aegis and globe for the bust, and this is the only rev. die of the FIDES EXERCITVVM type used in the issue, though a second such die was used later in the year with Vespasian's name abbreviated VESPASIAN (no -VS).

    To see what your dies looked like before the corrosion, see RIC pl. 18, 117 and pl. 16, 71 for the obv. and rev. respectively! There are the same two dies on well preserved specimens in other die combinations."
     
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  3. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    That Domna is fantastic, great coin.
     
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  4. Julius Germanicus

    Julius Germanicus Well-Known Member

    Salonina Pudicitia Sestertius, ca. 262, Goebl 490y (1, same dies)
    (unlisted in RIC, Cohen, BM, and Sear).
    One of the last Sestertii struck in Rome, the obverse die was also used for striking silver and bronze medallions.
    Mine is the second known example.
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  5. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Hi randy, this is a great idea for a thread.

    Nice rarities you have there!
    That sestertius of Vespasian specifically seems to be a very scarce type!
    (only found one other in acsearch). I Don't believe I have ever seen that type before.

    Of the top of my head, these would be my two rarest coins:

    Pertinax Dupondius - Emperor sacrificing over tripod.
    A relatively common type on denarii and as a sestertius, but extremely rare as a dupondius.


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    Vespasian Sestertius - Victory inscribing on shield affixed to palm tree.
    (This issue is related to the wars in Judaea).
    Apparently only two known (at least in on-line sources) with this specific arrangement of the reverse legend AVGVSTI VICTORIA.
    The other examples is in the BMC.

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  6. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Interesting thread and rarities
    Here's one of them :


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    Constantine the Great, Follis
    Nicomedia mint, 2nd officina, c. AD 311
    IMP C FL VAL CONSTANTINVS P F AVG; Laureate head right
    VIRTVTIE-XERCITVS Mars/Virtus advancing right in military dress, holding transverse spear and shield ; trophy over shoulder. B in right field. SMN in exergue.
    4.88 gr, 22 mm
    RIC-, C-, Roman coins -
    RIC lists this type only for Licinius and Maximinus . "Iovi Conservatori and Virtuti Exercitus both appear for Licinius and Maximinus, emissions for the former being the more scarce: coinage for Constantine is extremely rare. Date, c. 311". Coin should be listed after NICOMEDIA 70c.
    Please see Victor Clarks website for further information at :http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/unlisted/

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  7. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Very nice, great detail and such a rare coin with good surfaces, i would be happy to have in my collection.
     
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  8. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Both nice but I love the Vespasian and it's patina.
     
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  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    My large-flan EID MAR is not only rare... it's unique.

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    According to me. :D

    (Seriously, tho', I like @Eduard 's Vespasian sestertius, too.)
     
  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Your Domna has to be my favorite. Sharing an obverse die with my Venus denarii with odd reverse legends suggests we need to study more here.
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  11. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Great idea for a thread! A related thread idea might be "Show your book-rare coins which aren't rare in the reality".
     
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  12. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    My A-Pius drachm always makes me smile ... I've never seen another example

    => "please" post one if you have one, or know of one!

    Yah, it's either fairly uncommon, or I'm merely lousy at finding coins on the internet

    ANTONINUS PIUS, Alexandria, Bronze Drachm
    138-161 AD
    Egypt, Alexandria, year 8, (144-145AD)
    Diameter: 33mm
    Weight: 23.15 grams
    Obverse: Laureate bust of Antoninus Pius facing right
    Reverse: Serapis wearing the modius between the Dioscuri, LH in exergue
    Reference: Reference: Dattari 1109
    Other: Rare?


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    Serapis wearing the modius between the Dioscuri (pretty cool)

    :rolleyes:
     
  13. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    Awesome coins Randy! I don't have many imperials but here's a few scarce provincials.

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    Caria, Ceramos. Antonininus Pius AE33 Zeus Chrysaoreus

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    Macedon, Dium. Marcus Aurelius, 161-180 AD. AE 24

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    Mysia, Lampsacus. AE21. Volusian

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    Thrace, Byzantium. Pseudo-autonomous AE17. Hercules/Club of Hercules

     
  14. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    What I consider my rarest (and most expensive) coin in my collection:
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    CALIGULA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: C CAESAR AVG GERM P M TR POT, bare head right
    REVERSE: DIVVS AVG PATER PATRIAE, radiate head of Divus Augustus right
    Struck at Lugdunum, 37/8AD
    3.5g, 18mm
    RIC I 10
     
  15. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    This Gordian III provincial of Hadrianople is a proper rarity, or at the very least a very scarce coin..

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  16. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    Nero sest. bust facing right with Securtias(?) seated facing right. Trajan drachm overstruck on Nabatean Rabbel ll sela. i've not found another Nero like this and John Anthony hasn't seen a Trajan with evidence other than mine. nero, tiberius galba octavian coins 002.JPG nero, tiberius galba octavian coins 003.JPG trajan denari  arabian and victory reverses 001.JPG trajan denari  arabian and victory reverses 003.JPG
     
  17. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Cool posts and thread!!

    I suppose I have a few 'highly scarce' types but this example seems even more scarce since I have yet to stumble upon another offered at auction since I purchased it---and that was about 2 years ago. A classic example that scarcity and value are not necessarily the same thing, especially in fine condition:p

    Thrace, Byzantion. Ca. 240-200 B.C. AR tetradrachm (26 mm, 12.43 g, 12 h). Athanaion, magistrate. Veiled and wreathed head of Demeter right / ΠY, Poseidon seated right on rocks, holding trident and aphlaston; monogram to left, [E]ΠI AΘANAIΩN[OS] in exergue. Schönert-Geiss 1002 (V13/R20); cf. SNG BM Black Sea 59-61. g Fine, light smoothing in fields.

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  18. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    ..especially in fine condition...and in our collections:)
     
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  19. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Have others, but will just post these two.

    Way too lazy to "pile on" others.:yawn:

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    FAUSTINA Sr. (138-141 AD)
    AR Denarius
    Lifetime Issue
    O: FAVSTINA AVGVSTA, Draped bust right.
    R: IVNONI REGINAE, Peacock seated on throne and scepter behind.
    18mm
    3.5g
    RIC-340, RSC-221 BMC (Antoninus Pius) 145 (same reverse die)

    Ex Robert Kutcher Collection (Triton X, 8 January 2007), lot 1606 (part of)

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    Lucilla (164 - 182 A.D.)
    Billion Tetradrachm
    EGYPT, Alexandria
    O: ΛOVKIΛΛA C–ЄB ANT CЄ ΘV, draped bust right.
    R: Elpis stdg. l. holding flowers & lifting skirt. LS=6th yr.
    Alexandria Mint
    24mm
    11.33g
    Dattari 3816, Emmett 2473, R5
     
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  20. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I have 51 that were considered and described to me as "Rare", "Very Rare", one as "Extremely Rare" , "Scarce", etc. I just consider them all "Cool, Hard-to-Get".

    This one is kinda cool. Produced by Hannibal after he lost to the Romans in the Battle of Zama. He had to govern Carthage and ensure their finances were in order, so they could pay indemnities to the Romans... This is a HUGE coin, my largest STAMPED coin:

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    Carthage 201-175 BC Æ 15 Shekels 45 mm, 7.5 mm thick, 102g WreathTanit Horse uraeus above. MAA 104 SNG Cop 400 RARE


    This one is one of two known: mine and and one at the British Museum:
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    Etruria, Populonia
    2 ½ asses , AR 0.85 g
    3rd century BC
    Obv: Radiate female head r.; behind, CII.
    Rev: Blank.
    Ref: EC 104 (misdescribed, Female head with an Attic helmet). Historia Numorum Italy 179.
    NAC Comment: Of the highest rarity, apparently only the second specimen known. Dark patina and about very fine.
    Ex: From the collection of E.E. Clain-Stefanelli
    (@@ancientcoinguru further pointed out and had me further research E.E. Clain-Stefanelli's excellent provenance...
    ANS Executive Director Ute Wartenburg reported that Elvira Eliza Clain-Stefanelli died Oct. 1, 2001. Mrs. Stefanelli retired in 2000 as the Senior Curator of the National Numismatic Collection in the Numismatics Division of the National Museum of American History, Smithsonian Institution, Washington, DC. She was at the Smithsonian for forty years, and was responsible with her husband Vladimir for organizing and building up the National Numismatic Collection (from 60,000 to over 1,000,000 pieces.) She survived a Nazi concentration camp in WWII Europe, moved to Rome, and learned numismatics there. In New York she and her husband worked for Stack's and started the Coin Galleries division there. Her most recent publication was "Life In Republican Rome On its Coinage", a lavishly illustrated discussion of the themes which appear on the coinage of the Roman Republic, published in 1999. Her major contribution to the science of numismatic literature was her classic "Numismatic Bibliography", published in 1985.


    Plate coin

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    Campania
    AE
    Apollo-Achelous
    275-250BCE
    SNG ANS 474
    Ex: A random shooting in an auction...
    Nicholas Molinari 15-June-2016 stated: "Your ... coin is a plate coin in Potamikon, number 343 in our catalog so Sambon 663; Taliercio IIIa.16; MSP I, 343, featuring Acheloios Sebethos as a man-faced bull. Taliercio cited three examples of this type, so yours is the fourth known of that particular variety."
     
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  21. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    All wonderful coins!
     
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