Zeus Ammon

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  1. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    We normally think of Zeus Ammon as on coins of Egypt. Here is Zeus Ammon on a cute hemiobol from Caesarea in Cappadocia. It is 16-15 mm.

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    Trajan/Zeus Ammon
    AYT KAIΣ NEP TPAIAN ΣEB ΓERM
    Autocrater, Caesar, Trajan, Augustus, Germanicus
    ΔHMARX EΞ YΠAT Γ
    Tribunicia Poteste, Consul for the third (Gamma) time (AD 100).
    Sydenham The Coinage of Caesarea in Cappadocia 168 [Edit: Metcalf, as I comment in another post below, says this is not from Caesarea, contra Sydenham. He does not attribute it, but suggests others give it to Kyrene (Cyrene).]
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    Let's see some Zeus Ammon coins.
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Got none but thats a sweet little coin.
     
  4. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Excellent coin! I have but one.
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    Ptolemy IV
    221 to 205 BC
    Mint: Alexandria
    Obvs: Zeus Ammon right
    Revs: ΠTOΛEMAIOY BAΣIΛEΩΣ, Eagle on thunderbolt. Cornucopia to left
    AE 35mm, 31.0g
     
  5. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Wow, that's a nice coin @Valentinian! I don't even collect Trajan, but might be tempted by that one.
     
  6. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    This one is in miserable condition, but is very rare. I thought some of you might like it more than the usual suspects.

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    Cilicia Mallos. 425-385 BC? obol 0.63g, 8.5mm.
    Obv: Ammon head right
    Rev: Gorgon
    Harlan J Berk, Buy or Bid sale 86, July 1995, lot 297. (Misdescribed as Pisidia, Selge: gorgon/gorgon and unsold).

    Unpublished, but there is one in the ANS collection http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.54099?lang=en
    Four specimens known. The ANS example, this one, one sold by Münzen & Medaillen in 2009 and one sold by CNG in 2010.

    The spelling of the city’s name as ΜΑΡ rather than ΜΑΛ may help to date this piece. Barclay Head assigned all but one coin inscribed ΜΑΡ to 425-385 BC. He dates ΜΑΛ coins to 385-333 BC. A Mallos coin, winged man with solar disk / swan, of similar weight and fabric is dated to 425-385 BC by Edoardo Levante.

    The date range, 425-385 BC, deserves to be explicitly unpacked. 385 BC means before the satrapal period. 425 BC merely means the end of the 5th century. Although the gorgoneion is within an incuse square, and incuse square fabrics are associated with early coinage, Wayne Sayles told me “We do not find any Mallos coins in Archaic hoards. The early coins do often have an archaizing style and there are frequent examples of archaizing throughout the Pre-Seleucid era.”
     
  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    ZEUS AMMON, ROCKS!!

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  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The reason we think of Egypt is they did him well. This tetradrachm is Commodus.
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  9. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Sweet coin

    *yawn* ... I think I'm gonna go watch TV (tomorrow is a big day)

    Round #2 of the NHL playoffs (oooow, you guys must be giddy, eh?)

    ;)
     
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  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I've always liked coins from Cappadocia, and yours is just another example of the fine quality from there @Valentinian . Sorry I do not have one from Cappadocia.
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    PTOLEMY IV
    AE36
    OBVERSE: Diademed head of Zeus Ammon right
    REVERSE: PTOLEMIAOU BASILEWS, eagle standing left on thunderbolt, looking back at cornucopiae under right wing
    Struck at Egypt 221-205 BC
    46.4g, 36mm
    SNG Cop 221
     
  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    NICE @Valentinian !

    I have several from the Ptolemies of Egypt:

    Egypt Ptolemy IV 221-205 BC AE 33mm 35g HemiDrachm Zeus-Ammon Eagle Tbolt.jpg
    Egypt Ptolemy IV 221-205 BC AE 33mm 35g HemiDrachm Zeus-Ammon Eagle Tbolt

    And another is in Honor of Alexander the Great's visit to Siwa where he was changed...

    Thrace -Lysimachos AR drachm 305-281 BCE RARE Alexander head-Ammon horns - rev Lysimachos Athena.JPG
    Thrace -Lysimachos AR drachm 305-281 BCE RARE Alexander head-Ammon horns - rev Lysimachos Athena

    332 BCE, after a life-changing and very difficult personal journey with only a few select companions: He was pronounced son of the deity Amun at the Oracle of Siwa Oasis in the Libyan desert.
     
  12. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    ...everyone has one of these...

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  13. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Wow, cool coin. Never seen a Caesarean coin like that.
     
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  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm ... "two" of these ;)

    40 mm and 70 grams ... they're coin-brutes!!


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    :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Okay ... "now" I'm going to bed
     
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  15. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Ummm, I have more than a pound of these Ptolemaic Zeus-Ammons ;) :D

    I won't show them here though since you've seen them many times. Instead, here's a syncretionfest from Alexandria :)

    Serapis-Ammon
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    EGYPT, Alexandria. Hadrian
    year 8, CE 123/4
    billion tetradrachm, 23 mm, 13.2 gm
    Obv: ...TPAI AΔ... ; laureate bust right, slight drapery; crescent before
    Rev: draped bust of Serapis-Ammon right; L-H across fields
    Ref: Emmett 895.8, R5; Köln 858; Dattari (Savio) 1481; K&G 32.258
    From a Hungarian Collection formed primarily in the 1930’s

    Zeus-Ammon, wearing solar disc headdress
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    EGYPT, Alexandria. Aquilia Severa
    year 5, CE 221/2
    tetradrachm, 23.5 mm, 11.57 gm
    Obv: draped bust right
    Rev: head of Zeus Ammon right; L-E
    Ref: Emmett 3025.5, R3; Geissen 2376; Dattari 4186

    Serapis Pantheos, combining attributes of numerous gods including Zeus and Ammon:
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    EGYPT, Alexandria. Lucius Verus
    year 4, CE 163/4
    tetradrachm, 24 mm, 13.51 gm
    Obv: ΛAVPHΛI OVHPOCCEB; bareheaded, draped, and cuirassed bust left
    Rev: Radiate and draped bust of Serapis-Pantheos right, wearing calathus and horn of Ammon; trident behind shoulder; ∆/L in right field
    Ref: Emmett 2360 (4), R1; Köln 2148; Dattari (Savio) 9420; K&G 39.77

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    EGYPT, Alexandria. Antoninus Pius
    year 5, CE 141/2
    AE drachm, 20 gm
    Obv: Laureate draped bust of Antoninus Pius right
    Rev: Radiate-headed and draped bust of Serapis Pantheos (Serapis-Ammon-Asklepios-Helios-Nilus-Poseidon), right, wearing kalathos, ram's horn round ear; at shoulder, cornucopia; behind, trident with snake twined round it, L-Є in right field
    Ref: Emmett 1676.5, R1; Köln 1412
     
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  16. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    @TIF, your Lucius Verus reverse is wonderful. Take an attribute from each of several gods and give them to one new god. I love that coin!
     
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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nnniiice! Ms TIF!
     
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  18. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    kool, uncommon OP coin! nice coin post all. i have a Ptolemy l? (i don't know which, if someone knows, tell me:)) greek coins birds ptolemy, peresus 001.JPG greek coins birds ptolemy, peresus 003.JPG
     
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  19. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Thanks! It was a huge splurge but worth it to me :)

    I'm slowly gathering all permutations of syncretic coins of Serapis (himself an calculated syncretic invention of Ptolemy I and advisors). It's a fun area of focus.
     
  20. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    The OP is a wonderful diminutive Zeus Ammon, and that pantheos is awesome, @TIF!

    My 93g 46mm monster octodrachm. Ex Dattari. <<kaTHUNK>>

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  21. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    That is a spectacularly good example of the largest denomination... and ex-Dattari to boot? Color me green :D.
     
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