MS 65 Morgans

Let's be certain what we're talking about here. I am LESS happy with the GSA slabbed picture being a 65. The other photo, I'm completely happy with as a 65.

 

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I think even QDB no longer even subscribes to that view.

 

I did find this one on ebay, not necessarily better looking, but it appears to be a VAM 2B, which is a cool die cracked, rare VAM.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beautiful-1...069180?hash=item41c3283ffc:g:iKYAAOSw7U5Y9Exf

 

To be certain, I am less happy with both.

 

That's no problema.

 

I'm on lunch break. Going to a close by LCS to look at his raw Morgan's. Will not buy of course but the more I see the better I'll get.

 

Well, my solution in our home is that we separate "investment" and "coin hobby" budgets. She trusts me to invest our money based on how I believe we will best benefit (IRAs, stocks, bullion, etc.) Now, if your significant other is a little wary, how about you flip something a little smaller and show her that it's doable? Start small and build up the trust/comfort factors. It's not an easy or quick solution, but it could pay off if you're able to show that you know what you're doing. Frankly, I don't trust myself to buy a $1,100 coin in an effort to cash in down the road. I basically consider all bullion investments as trading cash for bullion intended emergency only or hopefully passed onto children/grandchildren.

 

Haha, I've tried everything from showing her pretty toned coins to buying coins with pretty horses on them. No luck. At least she's not against my collection, she just doesn't understand it.

 

Bman-
FWIW I have 2 GSA Morgans (purchased from GSA). For all the hype they'er disappointing. They look about the same as what you posted. I wouldn't grade them any higher than MS63. I'm sure the TPGer's would peg 'em at '65.
In the end I feel your pain. I don't think the asking price is worth it. I'm going though something similar putting together a Walking Liberty date set. After mind grading scores of slabbed '65's that I wouldn't grade higher than MS63 I switched gears. I took my girlfriend to the last Baltimore show and looked at raw Walkers. I found a few that where at least as nice as the overgraded MS65's and I paid substantially less.
Now getting your GF on the same page with your coin budget is another story. Think baby steps. I got my GF into searching pocket change. Among other finds she scored a nice WAM. Now she has the coin bug and wants to put together a Lincoln date set. I have to say we've had a few fun Sunday afternoons searching pocket change while sipping cocktails...

 

let me say this first I'm not a Morgan Dollar fan, now that being said I do like the second one. Nice coin, 65+ is a stretch but still a very nice Morgan

 

Oh, my GF and I Coin Roll Hunt Together. She loves it and goes to shows with me. She'll buy bullion and jewelry at them. She just doesn't understand the costs of coins over $100. I'll work on it. She really likes Walkers because she has pulled a few from CRH Halves. Maybe I can get her there and we can collect the short set together.

 

Sorry if the pictures aren't great, I took them at a coin show today. Here's an MS 65 with a CAC sticker despite all the black stuff. What are your thoughts?

 

The spots are a killer for me.

1883 is not a difficult date in CC. You can easily do better.

@Bman33

 

I would not buy that as a 65. Too many bag marks. To me it is a 64, maybe 64+

 

+1

 

+2 1882, 3, and 4 CC can be found with some really beautiful coins for reasonable money. When I see dealers selling a MS 65 1883CC for over $1000, it is laughable. It isn't difficult finding a nice one.

 

Yeah you can definitely find beautiful examples of 82-84 a dime a dozen. I made the mistake early grabbing the cheapest of those I could find for my GSA set now I want to upgrade.

The coin with the black marks he posted isn't a CC though just a Philadelphia 83. I'm curious about the black marks too...it's a beautiful coin aside from that. What would cause those marks and should it be straight graded?

I know on GSA morgans specifically you can see some black marks but they look a little different than that coin, that one looks like a sharpie hit it.

 

Carbon spots probably appeared after slabbing....don't buy it!

 

It graded, but the black spots are ugly.
If what chascat says is correct something is wrong with the slab, it allowed gases in?
If you are going to spend good money for an MS 65 CC Morgan why get one with distracting ugly black spots on it?

 

That's a Philly, my friend, not a CC.