Blown opportunity

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by vipergts2, Aug 22, 2007.

  1. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Well I missed another good deal last week. I went to a coin auction last thursday and didn't have enough time to do proper research.
    One item up for bids was a 1955 proof set in the box not the flatpack, and It was unopened. I did a quick price guide check and found that boxes went cheaper than flatpacks (wrong?). I did a quick ebay check and saw some flatpacks that had sold in the $120 range. I figured if I could pick it up for $100 I would get a good deal.
    The set sold for $140 and I thought the guy paid to much, but oh well.
    I had been watching an aucion on ebay with a 55 box set that was to be completed monday night I believe. Well I checked my-ebay tuesday morning and to my horror the set sold for $249.00. Dang!!:goof:
    It kind of reminds me of the ASE anniversary set I did not get.

    Lesson learned....study,study,study.

    On a side note, I did end up with some worn out morgans for about 2 cents under bullion value!:rolleyes:
     
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  3. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    right lesson learnt sell the Morgans back and use it to buy better coins unless you wan to tie up cash in worn out coins according to a recent pcgs article you can make a lot of money off worn out coins as well
     
  4. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    I don't trust auctions and I really don't trust ebay. At auctions around here there are to many people there to spike the auction. In other words they bid to raise the anti. If they accidently win, the item goes up again in a week or so. I know people on ebay that do similar things. Also, they have people that spike thier ratings with many good results. Be happy with what you almost didn't win.
     
  5. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    I attend some local auctions in my area and shilling is a problem here as well.
     
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    vipergts2
    Lesson #1: Don't regret your decision, if I review all of my 'missed opportunities' from the past three years alone, it would drive me crazy;
    2) You made the correct decision based upon the facts of the moment;
    3) don't use eBay as a bidding guide-- they are frequently too high;
    4) current trends on a '55 proof set (flat) $175 & up;
    5) Unopened boxes: PUNT!
    It was very popular years ago to purchase 'unopened boxes' of proof sets-- this is until someone finally opened one of them and found a box of washers, instead of the coins.

    So, you learned a big lesson, you picked a price and stuck to it. Far better than getting into a bidding frenzy and overpaying.
    Sit back, take a breath and relax.
    Ya done the right thing.
     
  7. wallyblackburn

    wallyblackburn New Member

    Can you point me to that PCGS article about "worn out coins". Based on my own research, it seems that for maximum return, lower-grade coins tend to do well (often better than MS coins). One thing though is that the price of silver will affect them more since the intrinsic metal value is a bigger part of the total.

    Thanks,
    Wally
     
  8. silvrluvr

    silvrluvr Senior Member

    With 52 sets for sale on eBay, there will be more opportunities. I saw one set that was already put into a display holder sitting at $89.95 + free shipping with no bids...the dime appeared to have some decent cameo contrast on the obverse and reverse...not a great pic though.
     
  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    not a great picture?
    better than a pig in a poke.
     
  10. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    the article was in the latest magazine from pcgs. I dont think its available online.
     
  11. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    I like going to local auctions, but some times they drive me crazy.
    The last few have had a couple of dealers bidding. Could be good or bad, they have a bigger bankroll, but it gives me a little heads up on how much and what to bid on.
    I did pretty good about sticking to my bid limits I set for myself, so I didn't waste much money.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Be extremely leary of buying "unopened" box sets. Personally, I never would. You need to look at the coins in these sets because of the staple. The staple that holds the cellophane slips shut - they were prone to rusting and causing some very unsightly toning on the coins.

    Look at the coins or pass.
     
  13. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    Neither most auctions or Ebay show the true value of the coins. A really big auction with very dispersed items might show how much people are generally willing to pay for things.
     
  14. AgCollector

    AgCollector Senior Member

    This wasn't by any chance Van Metre Auctions in Marshalltown, IA, was it?
     
  15. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Agcollector: Yes it was as a matter of fact. Small world.
    I do have a question though, your location says Maine, how did you hear about an auction in Marshalltown?
     
  16. AgCollector

    AgCollector Senior Member

    I moved from Grinnell to Maine last summer, and went to two or three Van Metre auctions when I lived there.

    I have gotten some good deals there on junk silver and Canadian coins but it seems like there are far too many dealers or people with deep pockets to get something like gold or silver dollars for much below the going rate.

    I hope they have a few more proof sets for you in the future!
     
  17. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Yep, it's a small world. Did you ever go to the auctions in Grinell when they sold coins?
     
  18. ewasherman

    ewasherman New Member

    You bring up an interesting point. I have mint sealed bags of all of the Westward Ho mint nickels, several P & D sets of the westward ho mint rolls in sealed boxes and now I have the Presedential $ coins, 1 mint roll of each P & D still sealed in the original mint box. I am hoping, should I decide to sell, that since they are all sealed, will this create the possibility of errors or am I just as well off operning the sealed boxes, easier to store?

    I too am very leery of ebay but so far I have been happy with everything I have won on ubid.com.
     
  19. AgCollector

    AgCollector Senior Member

    I only went to one, at the fairgrounds, and I picked up some silver Washington quarters for $1.50 each, if memory serves. I didn't see many coin auctions in Grinnell when I was there, but then again I only lived there two years. Were there better auctions you went to?
     
  20. Equity Coins

    Equity Coins New Member

    Get them free,free,free.

    buy,buy,buy,buy, sell,sell,get two free. etc.
     
  21. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Iv'e been to two there. The first had a collection of highly pollished indian head cents and silver Washington quarters. The second had a decent selection of Morgan dollars, but other bidders wanted them way worse than me.:rolleyes:
     
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