1879-S Rev of 1878 in a PCGS Rattler

Just received this coin today. Purchased from a Member Here.

1879-S Rev of 1878 in a PCGS "Rattler" Holder Graded MS-61.

A nice addition to my Collection

 

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Proof like for sure, maybe DMPL ......

 

Nice!

 

Looks like the obv doesn't quite make PL. Rev could very well be DMPL though. Still a nice coin

 

PL or Not it is a nice coin. I love the old Rattler Holders. May possibly be a VAM Variety too

 

Very nice! I've been wanting one in MS condition for quite some time. So many coins to get and so little time (read money).

It's definitely a VAM and a top 100 variety for sure. Now which one is it....

 

Couple of Better Pictures

It looks to Be a Double Date VAM 43

http://www.vamworld.com/1879-S+VAM-43

 

Very nice coin.

Sure looks PL in pictures but I know they had more loose PL standards back then so the fact that it wasn't graded as such leads me to believe it would fall short today. I learned that with a PL Morgan I bought in a rattler and a poster here mentioned the looser standards back then and they were spot on, mine is def not PL today.

Still though, great eye appeal especially for a 61.

 

Looks like a finger showing through in the field, over the date .
Which would make it proof-like ...

 

A fuzzy finger reflection does not make it PL. If I saw clearly defined ridges on the finger I would say yes but even then all parts of the field would need to mirrored to PL like standards. That bust is frosty but the fields are only semi-PL so it didn't, and won't, get the designation

 

Put that coin on it side and see what shows up in the fields, and if anything shows up, it's proof-like .......

Then just do the pencil trick, and see if that shows up in the fields, my money on at least proof-like ........

 

Do all the tricks you want. That obv is not PL period.

 

Wasn't planning on starting a argument here LOL. PL or NOT I'm happy with the coin. Got it at a great price. I didn't buy it as a PL I just thought it was a nice coin.

scmedic

 

Nice old rattler, although I agree with the frosty devices, the fields, especially the obv. are not mirrored enough imo. I would keep it in that holder if it was mine. cool coin regardless.

 

It's staying in the Rattler Holder that's for sure.

 

No fighting. Just don't want newbie readers thinking the obv is PL

 

That coin doesn't have to be PL to be a fine addition to a collection.

 

There's no fighting going on here, I'm just trying to help determine if it's proof-like . That's the best thing to do, to help out newbies ....

 

I am sure that if the fields had the same reflection of the circular bag mark behind the head, this would be a no brainer.
I would keep it in the rattler myself.

 

Looks pretty damn nice for a 61