1795 Flowing Hair Dollar

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Eduard, Aug 25, 2007.

  1. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Hello,
    I have been getting very useful feedback from you regarding the coins in my collection. Specially on how to assign them a grade. Here is a 1 dollar coin from 1795, of the Flowing Hair type. It is in quite good condition, but i believe it may have been cleaned. The surfaces are nice, not scratched, and quite smooth however. I would appreciate it you would give me your opinions as to grade, and possibly value. Here i do have an attribution number. It is the Bolender variety B-5. It has a "bar"behind the bust as diagnostic.
    many thanks,
    Eduard
     

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  3. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn Well-Known Member

    Does Cointalk ever cease to amaze...

    If this is not counterfit it is nearly pricelsss.

    Ruben
     
  4. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Counterfeit? i hope not. It was purchased at Bowers and Merena "Emerson and Faught Sale" June 1988. Lot 241.
    Eduard
     
  5. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    Eduard, will you adopt me ?
    I am of German decent.
    :)

    You have been sharing some very nice coins with us.
    Thank You.
    ;)
     
  6. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    Very very nice. I am pretty amazed that there are still any like that on the market. I have a love for the flowing hair coins, but I have to make do with a really beaten up half, because the prices are so high...and I doubt I am ever going to expand that section of my collection.
     
  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'd say F 15, not quite enough detail left to make VF 20.
     
  8. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    New computer - unfotunately it has a sticky keyboard :mad:
     
  10. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    That's a great, eye appealing example. Coins like this don't show up on the market too often.

    I think it could squeeze out VF-20.
     
  11. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Thank you all for your comments. As i explained before, i do not have access to the grading services, so i want to understand better what is the actual grade of my coins according to todays standards. And that is what i a getting through your comments .
    Grading in Europe tends to be quite different from that in the US: Both the grading scale itself, as well as the sensitivity to cleaning are very different here. That is why i want to know where i am at. So Very Fine 20 , or close to that it is then for this dollar coin?
    Thanks,
    Eduard
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Just curious, what did the cataloger grade the coin in the B & M sale ?
     
  13. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    ed:
    Okay it is official, I hate you .

    Just kidding, really nice.
    (Note: Green with envy).
     
  14. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    Another beautiful example of a fairly rare coin! Thanks for sharing it! I believe that that the coin is right on the line between F-15 and VF-20 and that it has probably been cleaned in the past.


    Frank
     
  15. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    VF details, cleaned, net F
     
  16. srkjkd

    srkjkd Book before coin

    thank you for sharing this coin!!! i am extremely envious also....what an incredible piece of history to own!
     
  17. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    VF-20 in my opinion.
     
  18. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Hello,
    To answer the question about the grade assigned to this coin in the sales catalog: it was originally graded as Very Fine 30, with bright surfaces.
    Yes, i do believe also that it was cleaned sometime in the past. I remember i asked the auctioneer about this and the reponse was :"most coins have been cleaned sometime in the past" I guess there is some truth to that. I decided to keep it anyway because the coin had a good overall appeal (and it was such a hassle to return it across the ocean).
    Eduard
     
  19. Jim C (Mich)

    Jim C (Mich) Senior Member

    Can I have all of your cool old coins when you die Eduard? Pleeeeeeaase.
     
  20. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    Wow, you have been a powerhouse collector out there for a number of years.
     
  21. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Eduard:
    You refer to Bolender #'s, I though that Bolender was for $'s?
    Am I wrong?
     
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