Altered Date Dime

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Insider, Apr 13, 2017.

  1. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I don't wish anyone to feel tricked, fooled, or embarrassed in this thread. I've also been advised not to waste any member's time trying to decide if I'm posting a genuine coin or a fake. Consequently, this is an example of an altered date dime. :D Enjoy!
    I have images of many more extremely deceptive alterations and counterfeits; but some may think they are genuine so I shall not post them at this time. :(

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    What is the difference between a true 1942/1 from an altered date?
     
  4. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Did you take the picture? Do you have any photo software?
     
  5. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I don't have image handy. Google 42/1 10c.

    Look for doubled base of 4, notch on diagonal, single die polish line above and below 4, nice even fields between letters with radials in higher grades.
    Also see if they mention the die polish line on the reverse.

    Yes, Tried to edit it but computer illiterate. :shame::hilarious::hilarious:
     
  6. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    I've never seen one with the date that mushy.
     
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  7. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    What photo software do you have?
     
  8. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    God forbid! Someone may just learn something and we certainly can't have that!
     
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  9. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    That shot is freakin' me out, mannnn! The lighting angle makes my mind see the date as incuse.
     
  10. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    You sound like a bummed out teenager, Insider. :(:writer::D
     
  11. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Any pics of the whole coin?
     
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  12. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Color me ignorant! I don't know. Thanks for trying to help.:happy:

    I AM. I hope straight out EASY stuff of little to no real challenge is a more acceptable post for those members who like to be spoon-fed the answers! Hope they get the message as you obviously have. :D

    Sorry no :(, the rest of the coin looks like a normal dime.

    It is. This alteration is so badly done that the faker scooped out the date area. Left tool marks all over, etc, etc. Should NOT FOOL anyone who has access to a photograph of a genuine example. :oops: I didn't write that. :sorry:
     
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  13. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    That's the most stubborn depth-reversal illusion I've seen in a long time.

    I still can't figure out how the shot was lit.
     
  14. mynamespat

    mynamespat Well-Known Member

    upload_2017-4-13_16-50-54.jpeg ?
    ok, I'm going to go do something more productive now ;)
     
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  15. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    To me it looks more like a die-cast counterfeit from the small piece of the coin I see. Kind of weird looking in the photos.
     
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  16. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Sorry, what is a depth-reversed image? This is exactly what the date looks like except the coin's color is "off." It was shot using a florescent light at about 30X.

    What looks like dark casting holes are toning spots on the surface. The coin is genuine with an altered date.
     
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  17. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    That is interesting. With the way the date looks it must have been one "tired" die when the coin was struck. Everything looks so mushy except for the 2 of the date.
     
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  18. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Because of the way the shadows are oriented, it looks like the date is incuse. That's depth reversal.

    For me, at least, it's easier to see the date in relief after I turn the image upside down:

    inverted-range-dime-upside-down.jpg

    I also tried reversing the palette (like a photographic negative, and also converting to greyscale), but that was weird, too:

    inverted-range-dime-inverted.jpg
     
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  19. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    OK, I understand. It did not look reversed to me at anytime, possibly because I took the photo. I even rotated it. :hilarious::hilarious:

    The actual coin looks like a normal VF/XF dime. There was nothing wrong with the die. What you are seeing has all been done to do the alteration. The date area has also been heavily buffed.
     
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  20. mynamespat

    mynamespat Well-Known Member

    I never quite understand this type of stuff. It seems to me the amount of time and effort somebody took to do this could have been put to more productive use. ...like electronics repair, jewelry making or some other form of tinkering which creates money without screwing someone else over. ..blacksmithing.. model making... there's plenty of options some of which can be very lucrative.
     
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  21. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    Some people just like to play with coins. This could be one of his rejects. Who knows? He could have created some real masterpieces that he made a fortune with.
     
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