Gordian III AE of Hadrianopolis w/ River God

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  1. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Here is a beauty I acquired from another forum member. It is my first Hadrian provincial, and a nice theme to boot as I didn't have any coins with river Gods on them. The obverse is a little off center and the coin does have circulation wear and mild porosity, but for now uncommon these are and the high prices they usually go for, I'm not complaining. I got a heck of a deal on this one...There are some on vcoins.com in worse shape (broken coins, etc) selling for double what this cost me.

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    Thrace, Hadrianopolis. Gordian III. A.D. 238-244. Æ (24 mm, 8.54 g, 6 h). AVT K M AN[T] ΓOPΔIANOC (AVΓ), laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Gordian III right / AΔPIAN-O-ΠO-ΛEITΩN, the river-god Hebrus reclining left on overturned vase from which water flows, holding reed and rudder. Youroukova 470 (V230/R456); Varbanov 3836. Brown patina, light porosity.


    Well, show off your Gordian, river gods, coins from Hadrianopolis, etc.
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Provincials are so interesting! Congrats on your lovely river god provincial.

    I have one provincial river god, a grubby Elagabalus from Moesia Inferior:

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    MOESIA INFERIOR. Nikopolis ad Istrum
    Elagabalus , CE 218-222
    AE 26 mm, 11.1 gm
    Obv: AYT K M AYP ANTΩNEINOC. Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev: VΠ NOBIOV POVΦOV NIKOΠOΛITΩN ΠPOC ICTPON. River-god reclining right, holding branch; prow at side
    Ref: Varbanov 4055
    ex Falter Collection, Nature Gods

    Two Gordian IIIs from Hadrianopolis:

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    THRACE, Hadrianopolis. Gordian III
    AE 22 mm, 5.18 gm
    Obv: AVT K M ANT ΓOPΔIANOC; radiate head right
    Rev: AΔPIANOΠOΛЄITΩN; Pan advancing left, holding syrinx and lagobolon
    Ref: Varbanov 3945 corr. (cantharus in place of syrinx). Very rare.

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    THRACE, Hadrianopolis. Gordian III
    AE 18 mm, 2.59 gm
    Obv: AVT K M ANT ΓORΔIANOC AVΓ; laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev: AΔPIANOΠOΛEITΩN; ostrich running like @@stevex6 is chasing it with a basting brush
    Ref: Varbanov 3833, rare
     
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  4. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Super posts!! Great pick-up @Sallent !!! LOVE river gods!!!

    Can anyone come up with cooler examples than TIF's ??? Not me:(

    But, here's one from the region....Serapis with his 'thinking pot' on his head;):D


    Bronze assarion, H-H-J Nikopolis 8.26.6.6 (R2, same dies), Varbanov I 3825 (R3, same dies), AMNG I/I 2018, SNG Cop -, EF, centered, green patina with a few coppery high spots, Nicopolis ad Istrum (Nikyup, Bulgaria) mint, weight 3.726g, maximum diameter 17.8mm, die axis 180o, obverse AVT M AVPH - ANΩNINO-C, laureate head right; reverse NIKOΠOΛITΩN ΠPOCICTPON, draped bust of Serapis right, wearing kalathos.



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  5. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i always dig a good river god!

    the little fellow on this one below tyche is one of my favorites...

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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I have a Hadrianopolis coin and a river god coin, but not a river god coin from Hadrianopolis.

    Faustina Jr Hadrianopolis.jpg
    Faustina Jr, AD 147-175
    Roman provincial Æ 22.4 mm, 6.54 g
    Thrace, Hadrianopolis
    Obv: ΦΑVCΤΙΝΑ CΕΒΑCΤH, pearl-diademed and draped bust, right
    Rev: ΑΔΡΙΑΝΟΠΟΛΕΙΤΩΝ, Hera veiled, standing in front of altar, holding patera and scepter
    Refs: Moushmov 2532; Varbanov 1631, SNG Cop 558; BMC --

    Severus Nicopolis ad Istrum Hemus.jpg
    Septimius Severus, AD 193-211
    Roman provincial Æ 25.2 mm, 9.95 g
    Moesia Inferior, Nicopolis ad Istrum
    Obv: ΑVΤ CΕΠΤ CΕVΗΡ ΠΕΡ, laureate head, right
    Rev: VΠ ΑVΡ ΓΑΛΛΟV ΝΙΚΟΠΟΛΕΙΤΩΝ / ΠΡΟC ΙCΤΡ, River god Hemus reclining left, seated on cliff, r. hand over head, l. arm leaning on tree and holding spear, bear below, AIMOC before.
    Refs: Moushmov 1023, AMNG (Pick) 1315
     
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  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    My River God... Man-Faced-Bull, Achelous!

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    Campania Neapolis 320-300 BC AR Nomos Nymph Achelous
    (It's UPGRADE time!!!)

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    Sicily Gela AR Litra Horse-Achelous 0.63g 13mm 465-450 BCE HGC 2 p 373

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    Campania AE Apollo-Achelous -275-250BCE PLATE COIN 3 KNOWN RARE SNG ANS 474 - Listed Potamikon pg 232 Plate 343
     
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  8. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Thats a neat find
     
  9. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Two of the oddest iconographical reflexes of the river god motif can be found in Ravenna in the Arian and Neonian Baptistries. Both baptistries depict the baptism of Christ in a dome mosaic. We obviously see Jesus (in full frontal nudity, which would embarrass later prudish Christians), John the Baptist, and...THE RIVER JORDAN AS AN OLD MAN! So here is the Jordan "river god" present at the baptism of Christ! Clearly by the fourth century the motif had become thoroughly conventional and the river symbol no longer held divine status. But these mosaics demonstrate just how hard it was to stamp out these pagan motifs, or better yet, how resourceful / heterodox early Christian artists were in adapting pagan motifs for their own purposes.

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  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Wow-- fascinating!
     
  11. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Fascinating stuff! It can also be argued that the Roman pantheon influenced the Catholic idea of patron saints.
     
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  12. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    It's mind blowing to think such complex images are made up of thousands of little colorful stones. Must have taken tremendous amounts of talent and time to do that.
     
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  13. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Thanks. It's amazing just how many interesting coins are out there waiting to be discovered.
     
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  14. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    Nice OP Sallent! Oh the life of a river-god.

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    Syria, Commagene, Samosata. Antoninus Pius AE24
    Obv: ΑΥΤΟ ΚΑΙ ΤΙ ΑΙΛ ΑΔΡΙ ΑΝΤΩΝΕΙΝΟΣ ΣΕΒ ΕΥΣΕ / laureate-headed bust of Antoninus Pius wearing (cuirass and) paludamentum, r.
    Rev: Φ ΣΑΜΟΣΑΤ ΙΕΡ ΑΣΥ ΑΥΤΟΝΟ ΜΗΤΡΟ ΚΟΜ / turreted Tyche seated on rock, l., holding poppy and two ears of corn, resting arm on rock, resting foot on swimming river-god (Euphrates).


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    Uncertain AE16 / River-God
     
  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    AKARNANIA, FEDERAL COINAGE.jpg
    AKARNANIA, FEDERAL COINAGE
    AE20
    OBVERSE: Head of Herakles r., wearing lion's skin headdress
    REVERSE: Head of the river god Archelous r.; magistrate's name AGHTWP
    Struck at Leukas 200-167 BC
    4.6g, 20 mm
    BCD Akarnania 38; Gross-McClean 5394; MSP I, 464.
    Ex Failla Numismatics
     
  16. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Another photo of the OP coin

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  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Nice ... cool coin Lawyer Sallent ... yah, I love the river-God coins (super cool)

    Ummm, I think I have at least one example ...

    Trajan

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    :rolleyes:
     
  18. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    That's really awesome - thanks for bringing it up! I love these sorts of things.
     
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  19. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I do not have any river gods or any from your city. @Sallent you're on quite a roll! @TIF those are just super! I love provincials. They might just be my favorite.
     
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  20. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Nice one, Sallent... lots of eye appeal. I love these river-god reverses... those dudes looked like they knew how to chill.
    The Boss, aka Nilus:
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    ANTONINUS PIUS
    AE Drachm. 22.17g, 35mm. EGYPT, Alexandria, RY 9 (145/6 AD). Dattari (Savio) 8632; Emmett 1621.9. O: AVT K T AIL ADR ANTWNINOC CEBEVC, laureate head right. R: Nilus reclining left, holding reed and cornucopia from which emerges a Genius; crocodile below, L ENATOV (date) around.

    This dark beauty from Hadrianopolis made me very happy when it arrived a few days ago:
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    GETA
    AE27. 11.72g, 27.6mm. THRACE, Hadrianopolis, circa AD 209-211. Varbanov 3684. O: AVT K Π CEΠT-MIOC ΓETAC, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right. R: AΔPIANO-ΠOΛITΩN, Herakles holding club, opening a can of whoopass on the Lernean Hydra.
     
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  21. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Wowie... great coin!
     
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