Canadian Coin books...Should I get them?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by MontCollector, Apr 1, 2017.

  1. MontCollector

    MontCollector Well-Known Member

    I bought a bunch of random unsearched older Canadian Cents and nickels along with 2 half complete Cent books for next to nothing.

    The seller is now offering to sell me for $25.00 shipped a complete Date set 1920-2012 of Canadian Cents as and an almost complete date set same years of the Canadian Nickels. Seller says both includes key dates, and are also unsearched for errors or varieties.

    I bought the unsearched coins because I just completed a coin book and was looking to start another. Figured Canadian Cents would be a good looking set to put together.

    My question is: Are the Date sets worth the $25.00. Should I pick them up as well? This is not an eBay deal.

    Thanks...Mont
     
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2017
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  3. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    You can see what the best dates have sold for on eBay, taking condition into account. The 3 highest-cataloging cents, highest to lowest, are 1923, 1925, and 1922. For nickels, it's a variety of the 1926, then 1925, then 1947 with a dot (NOT a maple leaf) after the date.

    You're talking at least $75 for the two sets, with those dates, genuine, in problem-free circulated condition. Seems odd that someone would take so little money for them, and he'll already have $7+ invested in shipping (small flat-rate box).

    If he has a set of Canadian large cents, I'd be interested, that's the only Canadian I collect. Stamps too, maybe postcards.
     
  4. MontCollector

    MontCollector Well-Known Member

    Don't think he has large cents. But I will ask.

    He is selling his Canadian coins because he was trying to complete both series...thought he was close to being done...then realized how many different varieties there were. He is mainly a US coin collector he has decided to concentrate more on those. As a result he just wants to get rid of his Canadian Coins to someone who will appreciate them more. He did say something about losing money at the price he quoted me...but thought might be a sales pitch.

    Here are the pictures he sent me of both sets. Kinda blurry, but it looks complete. CanCenCol.jpg CanNicCol.jpg

    They both come with the pages they are in. I will have to buy the album these pages belong to.
     
    Last edited: Apr 2, 2017
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  5. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    You need to find out how many of the six keys are included. The brass nickel in page 1 is either a 1942 or 1943. If you count years backward from that coin, the first coin in the album would be a 1928, which omits all the scarce nickels.

    On the other hand, I can't imagine the album would "start" six years after the first issue (in 1922). So there's some questions here.

    Does this question make sense to other members here?

    I would not send any money until you have a list of dates, both albums.
     
  6. MontCollector

    MontCollector Well-Known Member

    On the cent pages he said there is a complete date set 1920-2012 one cent for each year. Varieties unknown. He specifically mentioned the 1923 that is included and he said there were a couple other rare one in it as well.

    As for the Nickels. The pages start at 1922 and run through 2011 but is incomplete. He mentioned that all nickels before 1953 were purchased separately. The rest were obtained through a lot purchased at a private auction.

    He specifically mentioned the Tombac 1943 and Cuni 1945 as being MS as well as the 1944.

    If I start at the brass nickel which is 1943 and count the holes backwards they go back to 1922.
     
  7. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    OK, go for it. I'm used to seeing Whitman folders for Canada, so that might account for the confusion. Does the nickel album show two types of 1926? One catalogs $7-10, the other, $100+.
     
  8. MontCollector

    MontCollector Well-Known Member

    I don't think so.

    I told him I will take them. I will risk the $25.00 based on sellers description and pictures.

    Thanks for the info Doug. Can't wait to get them and start looking for errors and varieties...this is gonna be fun!
     
  9. MontCollector

    MontCollector Well-Known Member

    Woohoo They arrived today. Will post close-ups when I get a chance.

    Even came with A 13 Medal set of Canadian Coat of Arms!
     
  10. HAB Peace 28 2.0

    HAB Peace 28 2.0 The spiders are as big as the door

    Absolutely! It's hard to find a better way to learn about coins, then by reading credible books.
     
  11. PennyGuy

    PennyGuy US and CDN Copper

    There are quite a few Canadian small cent varieties. You'll have fun.
     
  12. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    Would the OP ask the seller (for me) if he has a book of Large
    Cents? Or any Newfoundland?
     
  13. MontCollector

    MontCollector Well-Known Member

    I will ask.

    So far the only one I have looked at closely is the 1943 Tombac Nickel. I will have to take pictures. There are at least 5 die cracks on reverse and 3 possibly 4 die clashes. Will post pics tonight.

    Looked on Coins and Canada...Saw a bunch showing 1 or 2 cracks and some showing die clashes. But none showing both.

    Also what is a Zoell # referring to? Is this like a top 100 list?

    Thanks again...Mont
     
  14. MontCollector

    MontCollector Well-Known Member

    Here is the 1943 Tombac I mentioned above. Lots of pictures
    1943TOBV_opt.jpg 1943TREV_opt.jpg CACR_opt.jpg NCR_opt.jpg ADACR_opt.jpg 19CR_opt.jpg CENTSCR_opt.jpg RMLCR_opt.jpg

    Here are the Clashes
    TSClash_opt.jpg VCclash_opt.jpg
     
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  15. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    Don't know Zoell, but I have read previously that the tombac alloy was unsuitable for minting coins, frequently cracking and laminating during impact.

    And is it just an odd coincidence that this alloy, formulated to relieve war shortages of strategic metals, reads "combat," with the first and last letters reversed, to confuse the Axis? o_O

    Conspiracy theories @ 10c, three for 25c, cash only.

    Satisfaction guaranteed or double your paranoia back. :D
     
  16. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    For those who don't know, the coin's legend translates:
    "George VI, by the Grace of God, King and Emperor of India."
     
  17. MontCollector

    MontCollector Well-Known Member

    This last picture shows a faint line staring at the top of the V and curving down towards the 9 then extending out the bottom. This is raised on one side and looks to be a very lite clash of the back of the bust.
    9Clash_opt.jpg
     
  18. jj00

    jj00 Well-Known Member


    Zoell # in reference to Hans Zoell who wrote several Canadian varieties pamphlets in the 1960's
    https://books.google.ca/books/about/Canada_Major_Coin_Varieties_Including_Ne.html?id=GTK1bwAACAAJ

    Bio
    http://www.cevna.com/articles/HansZoellBio.pdf
     
  19. MontCollector

    MontCollector Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the links...This one is close on the die cracks to one listed with a Zoell # below it.
     
  20. jj00

    jj00 Well-Known Member

    When I was first collecting, I actually learned Morse Code because of that nickel, so I could translate the reverse.
     
  21. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    If you know Morse code, you're halfway to a ham radio license; get one if you are at all interested, it's a very valuable skill. In storms or disasters, you will have communications when no one else does. A lot of good equipment pops up in estate sales and specialized "ham" websites -- it's not nearly expensive as it used to be.

    The FCC may have eliminated the requirement to know code, now that I think about it. Read a copy of QST magazine at the library, to see if you catch the bug.
     
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