Initial missing?

Really. Like on my thread debris fill die. I made all that up I guess the last photo in that thread I made up. I guess it's my imagination all the debris that comes down the production line I made up. I call it what it is debris that came down the production line. No more no less Paddy was right when he said struck through. If you go through your Internet search you will find more on filled dies and struck through hard to find anything on grease fill die. That's not my imagination that's a fact Jack.And when a new member uses a quote that he'll be looking out for grease spots, common sense tells you that grease fill die is not an appropriate saying. Even though it is a long term saying. Debris fill die covers all the debris that is collected on the way to the press. So why are you and everyone else Getting Your panties turned inside out over a correct definition of what's going on.As I stated on other threads, just ask someone at random what a grease fill die definition is to them. And a majority of them are going to tell you their definition is a die that is filled with grease. Then on another occasion asked someone what a debris fill die is. Almost everyone I have asked this question to in the non-collecting coin world answers was basically the same garbage that fills the die. And a majority of these people know nothing about coins or dies or anything concerning coins. But when you use the right words they get the right definition.I don't know about others but in my life I deal with every day people. Example my bank manager at the bank that I go to. Showed me a couple of coins that he was given as a present. I did a little research on the gold proof coins that I was showed. And found out for him they were worth $450 each. So when the bank reopened on a Monday I made it a point to go up and to see the manager. I told him of my findings and not to leave the coins in his DEST were everyone had access to. He was extremely happy with my findings. He informed me he knows nothing about coin collecting. I then informed him he has a nice 2 coins starter set for his new collection. He informed me that his eight-year-old daughter has two new coins for her new collection.Basically the point I'm trying to make is I use terms that every day people understand. I have found you get more people involved in coin collecting if you speak their language first. Then if they decide to going to get into collecting more, they will learn more.And have the opportunity to learn what terminology they prefer to use. Not you not me. USMC60

 

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Follow-up. Little more research on the Internet. Basically the only ones I found using grease fill die as a statement is on all the talk forums. Here's one from NGC
NGC
Dropped Letters (The Un-filled Die)
It is a normal occurrence in the process of minting coins that, over time, some part of the dies may become either partially or fully clogged with debris. The most common form of this debris is a combination of metallic fillings and grease or oil which I will call "metallic dirt." (PHOTO #1) Metallic dirt will become imbedded in the recesses of the dies resulting in a coin struck with incomplete detail, missing portions of the design elements. (PHOTO #2) Because of the speed at which the presses operate (at 750 coins per minute), many coins can be struck with this obstruction before this situation is corrected. At some point, an inspector will notice the filled die flaw, stop the presses, and remove the build up. (PHOTO
USMC60 PS I can only assume you're having a problem with someone using the term metallic dirt.

 

Dear god, grow up. You are acting like a child that just wants to argue with someone.

 

IMO, this is another example of making a big deal over nothing. News flash, "debris" is a word that covers virtually everything you can imagine that is struck into a coin. Several TPGS have stopped using "grease" on their label because they cannot be sure what specifically got between the die and the planchet. When the object is obvious, a staple, or sawdust used to dry planchets, that may be stated on the label.

So, if old timers wish to use struck thru grease to describe everything, fine. If others wish to be more often correct and use "debris" that's fine too. "Struck Through" covers it all.

More importantly, virtually nothing posted on CT is going to change anything in the "real world."

 

Question if my may. I always thought after the planchet went through its bath and then through the rents cycle it went right to the dryer to be heated up prior to going to the upsetting machine and then into the press. When did they use sawdust to dry planchet's.?

 

Not exactly sure. Why don't you research it and let us know. My guess is sometime between 1900 and 1904. I cannot remember the date of a coin made after 1900 where I last saw this type of struck thru. The book Mine to Mint may contain the answer.