Multiple errors dragon dollar silver coin without rotation surface and natural shade

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Thecollectible, Mar 25, 2017.

  1. Please check it out on the scans below and let me knows of what you think later there
     

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  3. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    Cool piece.

    I just got the same type of example in the mail.
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  4. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    The prime suspect is a Chinese fake.

    OP, if you edit your post you can select 'full size' for your pictures which is better than thumbnails for easy viewing.
     
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  5. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    You believe both coins are fake?
     
  6. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I was referring to the OP's coin specifically, but given the huge numbers of fakes of these Chinese dollar sized coins, which were among the first types to show up in the west 20 to 30 years ago, I'd almost want to have seen the coin struck to believe one is original, and every possible test should be performed. The weight alone will detect most of the fakes. Another clue I look for is having the wrong milling on the edge, hold an assortment of fakes of different coins as a roll and you can see they all have the same or very similar milling, whereas the real ones have a variety of types that are very obvious. The fakers do not bother to invest in an assoertment of milling dies (or whatever you call the part that creates the milled edge)

    There are also visual clues but I have never seen enough real ones to learn them.
     
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  7. The silver coin that you are showing there which is fake but mine is real to be honest because the surface is clean to believe
     
  8. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    OP, what is the exact weight to .1 of a gram of your coin?

    mine is real to be honest because the surface is clean to believe

    This I cannot understand, could you rephrase it so the meaning is clear?
     
  9. The actual weight of the silver coin belongs to me is at tweenty six point six grams but those fake coins are having the same weight which are similar to those real coins after encountered fake coins with weight measurement for years to be honest so you cannot weight it for identifying anymore whether its authentic or not before buying it


    However the clean of what I mean is for another coin posted up showing on above after mine which is completely fake because the whole surfaces are so clean other is the extra spin on the centre fireball and lettering are mostly perfect instead of slighly dirty on the surface dot on the centre fireball other is for those lettering are mostly broken appearance showing on obverse position for the identification authentic or not be honest hopefully that you can understand it now the research and explaination to you
     
  10. Welcome to comment on these topic there
     
  11. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    Really there is no reason to comment further from anyone. You have convienced yourself your coins is real. So its real until you try to grade it or sell it. Then you might get a rude awakening.
     
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  12. These silver coin is counterfeit with crack lines appearance right on the surface but the real pieces are without those lines be honest
     
  13. Fully agree these is not real piece but high level of reproduction no way to deny thought wrongly by myself after realise there
     
  14. Everything is clear after done my research
     
  15. Thank you for your participation there
     
  16. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    I sent mine in today to pcgs. I will let them make the final decision. If fake ill return it. I will have the results back on the 10th. 22$ to check for sure aint bad
     
  17. Hopefully your coin to be graded right in the holder with numbers rather than comment of the fake questionable on the paper in return
     
  18. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    I can judge most Chinese coins if fake but the dragon dollars are the hardest and I cannot unless poorly made
     
  19. You are right and have to admit there are large amount counterfeit especially chinese silver coins just to con people for benefit
     
  20. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    Well mine came back authentic..... Where is yours??????
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  21. The silver coin has sold to someone who treated it which is real and made profit from these serious buyer to be honest with you
     
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