Athenian Owl Tetradrachms

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by MerlinAurelius, Mar 17, 2017.

  1. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Actually, I like the drachms and fractionals and might buy one of those before a tetradrachm, if I found the right one at the right price. They are far less common.

    I guess there's something to be said for having a classical owl tet though. It really is one of the most recognizable coins of antiquity.
     
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  3. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    I fell in love with the owl when I was a child, before I knew that it was a coin.
     
  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Mine has been TESTED and is a TRUE Athenian Owl!

    Athens Owl 16-8g  22x6-5mm Obv-Rev.jpg
    Athens Owl 17.4g  20-4x7-5mm edge-crud.jpg

    Ancient traders pounded Bankers' Marks to ensure it was silver, and to let everyone know that this was a true Owl.

    It seemed most bankers marks were on the Owl, as that was to "insult" the Athenians. Many times there was a chop between the Owl's eyes.

    However, it was bad luck to punch Athena, as she was a Goddess in the Greek world, and you did not want to anger her... So, since these Tets are punched in Athena's face, they were possibly tested outside the Greek world at that time...
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  6. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Here are 4 Tetradrachma's with the price I paid:

    One genuine with a serious testcut $200

    Athens owl catawiki vz.jpg

    One genuine with a minor testcut $1000

    Tetradrachma XF Attica Athens vz.jpg


    2 fake ones with underweight of 12 gram instead of the correct weight of around 17 gram.

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  7. TheMont

    TheMont Well-Known Member

    I have two, one I sent to NGC to see what tthey would do.

    Athenia-Owl.jpg Athenia-Owl rev.jpg

    This one has the right weight, right silver content (used a metal analyzer) , and the right size. I brought it to a coin show and three dealers who specialize in ancient coins offered to buy it from me.
    Athena and Owl obv.jpg Athena and owl rev.jpg
     
  8. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Super posts everyone!!

    I'll pile on with one I purchased a couple of months ago---a budget version with the archaic Athena; 16.95 gram, 25mm, circa 449-413 BC

    Athens tet 16.95g 25mm.JPG
     
  9. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Well since we are all piling on...
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    I love these types :)
     
  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow, Curtismo ... that's a tough act to follow!!

    Here is my humble, carved-up lil' fella ...

    ancientowl2x.jpg ancientowl2a.jpg coin3ax.jpg coin3bx.jpg coin3cx.jpg attic owl side aaa.jpg


    ... don't let them push you around, sweetie ...

    You're an ugly duckling with extreme inner beauty!!

    :rolleyes:
     
  11. ChasPay

    ChasPay Active Member

    I can't claim this coin as mine. It belongs to a friend whose small collection I have been selling off for him. I'm sure he will not mind me posting a picture of it though.
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  12. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Yes, taking your time is the main thing, especially because there are thousands of them on the market. It's not the kind of stuff you want to jump on in a wink because it is so rare that it would be now or never !

    Here's the one my wife gifted me with last year, from CNG


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    ATTICA, Athens. Circa 454-404 BC. AR Tetradrachm
    Helmeted head of Athena right, with frontal eye
    Owl standing right, head facing, olive sprig and crescent behind, all within incuse square. ΑΘΕ in the right field
    24mm, 17.08 g, 8h
    Ref : Kroll # 8; HGC # 4,1597

    Q
     
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  13. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    You are a lucky, lucky man, Q :) That's such a wonderful example of a classical era owl tet!!
     
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  14. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Yes, and moreover I'm conscious and grateful, she's just wonderful in every way :)

    Q
     
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  15. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Then she is an equally lucky woman :)
     
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  16. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    I think I'd better share my owl Tet with all my coin-friends. TetOwl O        Classical.JPG TetOwly R      430 BC.JPG
     
  17. AngelDeath

    AngelDeath Well-Known Member

    My experience on these... the first thing I look for are the dimples under the tail feathers.

    Your examples are missing these dimples.
     
  18. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    Sadigh and its owner, Merdad (currently Americanizing to Michael), is the most notorious purveyor of fakes in the world. As far as I know everything I have ever seen is fake. Outright. He is well known to collectors and dealers of antiquities in general but less known by coin collectors. He has been selling fakes successfully for a few decades. He gets away with it because when confronted he will issue a rapid refund with no questions. He also threatens to sue anyone for libel if he is discussed publicly (like here) but he is all bark and no bite. Many have invited him to sue but he never does as he knows he will have to admit his items are fake.
     
  19. MerlinAurelius

    MerlinAurelius Well-Known Member

    Here are some owls I have since purchased. All from reputable auction houses in live auctions. attica1.jpg attica2.jpg attica3.jpg attica4a.jpg attica4b.jpg
     
  20. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Artist & Historian Supporter

    FORVM is totally trustworthy! Joe (Sermarini) has a stellar reputation and will go above and beyond to assist a customer.
     
  21. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    How true !

    Q
     
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