I've got some varieties that I can't seem to ID....and I'd like ya'lls thoughts. First off...here are some that I can ID! The first one is a 1954 S/D! The next one is a 1948 S/S The next one is the one I'm having the problem with. It is an 1964-D. From what I can see in James Wiles book on Jefferson Nickel RPM's this would be a RPM-002 D/D Rotated CCW. But I'm not 100% sure. I found a handfull of these along with a good many RPM's that I can't ID just yet! So give me your thoughts---I'm hoping to send off some coins for Mr Wiles to check out here soon and I might add this one along with them just to see what he thinks! Speedy
Howdy Speedster... I know little about the RPM's you are working on, however, what it looks like to me is the underlying "D" has the slight CCW rotation with the (top most) D over it. I think you are correct on the position, I am not sure about the degree of the CCW rotation. Question: If the die is made and the MM is later hand engraved on the die or "punched" whats to say it is 100% perfect in it position? If the coin was struck a second time there would be other doubling on the obverse, if not, then it had to be punched again over the MM is this correct? I am trying to learn someting here..LOL Regards, RickieB
Love those RPM's. Hard to tell but the 1964D looks like maybe a RPM# 005 which is a Top 100. Also on CONECAonline.org master listing they list a #006 but no markers or photos. The 1954S doesn't seem to quite match anything listed as well the closest possibility being the #003. But dosn't quite look right maybe a new one. Great finds
I think it is a new one! This one was in a flip that Mike Ellis had writen on with the S/S and such....down near the bottom he put that it was new. From what I hear he and CONCEA maybe have 2 different listings so maybe CONECA hasn't listed this one yet. Good point! I hadn't taken that good of look at the photo of 005. I posted a pick over on the CONECA board and asked what they thought....and I'll post one more here... You got me on that one! Reason would say that there is no 100% perfect position and whereever the final mark was placed was the right place, and all others were wrong. I do have a coin in the mail coming to me that the guy says has the mintmark rotated 120o CCW. This is one I really want to see!!! You lost me.....give me a few min. to read over this and I'll see if I know the answer! Speedy
With that new pic I'm not sure about that RPM that is the 1964D right? What you said about Mike Ellis writting new variety on the 1954S would make since. When I joined CONECA In the July/Aug 2005 issue of Errorscope Mike Ellis stated he can only attribute varieties on file and if not on file will only simply say doubled die or RPM and not assign a number. James Wiles was working on other projects and was not doing attributions.
Ok...I think what you are saying is that if the mintmark looks doubled but the rest of the coin doesn't seem to have the same type then it must be a RPM? Pretty much...you can have maybe some parts of machine doubling but in most cases that will show on other parts of the coin also. Yeah...its the same coin. I have more than one like this and at first look I knew that it didn't look like some other RPM's that I've viewed and I thought maybe a case of machine doubling....but I just can't buy that right now. It seems that there is more going on with the MM...I'll try to get more photos. Speedy
I did mess up above and post the wrong info with the wrong photo! The S/S was dated 1948---and it is listed....RPM-002! I do have a 1954 that is unlisted...... I've deleted the above photo and left the one we are talking about. I'm hoping to get a few more shots of this coin soon. Speedy
Hey, Speedy. I don't look at my coins with a microscope, so I don't know what varieties I have. I do, however, think that variety collecting is an interesting sidebar for someone who has grown tired of date/mintmark collecting. I consider slabbed varieties to be a comical waste of money. A little research would yeild the same results.
