Pertinent excerpts: Initial Decision Findings of Fact: p. 204: 46. Since the dates imprinted on them are different than the dates on the original coins, the two Gold Bullion 10 Mark gold coins are not copies·of 10 Mark gold coins actually issued by the German government and used in exchange. Furthermore, there is no· reliable evidence in the record that suggests that consumers would confuse the Gold Bullion 10 Mark coins with the originals. p. 206: 67. The other coins manufactured by B.H. Mayer's Kunstprägeanstalt do not come within the provisions of the Hobby Protection Act either because there was no original coin issued by a government (the Gold Bullion 10 Mark Wilhelm II 1887, 10 Mark Wilhelm II 1888 and 20 Mark Wilhelm II 1887) or because there is no evidence that the original coins were used in exchange (Austrian 1 and 4 Ducat and 100 Corona). Conclusions of Law: p. 213: 6. None of the other coins imported by respondents come within the provisions of the Hobby Protection Act. Opinion of the Commission p. 220: The ALJ [(Administrative Law Judge)] found that no violation had occurred with respect to Gold Bullion's 20 Mark Wilhelm II (1887), 10 Mark Wilhelm I (1887) and 10 Mark Wilhelm II (1888) coins; because coins of those precise descriptions were never circulated by the German government. Therefore, Gold Bullion's coins were presumably not "copies" of an "original numismatic item." (I.D. 46, 51; p. 18n) In reaching this conclusion we believe the ALJ misapplied the language of the Hobby Protection Act, and we reverse his conclusions on this point, and hold that violations have occurred as the result of importation of the coins in question. p. 223: For the foregoing reasons, we conclude that a coin is an "imitation numismatic item" within the meaning of the Hobby Protection Act if it is not sufficiently different from an original numismatic item as to alert an unsuspecting purchaser to the difference. Applying that principle here, we find that minor variations in dates between an original and its alleged "copy" are insufficient to deprive the latter of its status as a "reproduction, copy or counterfeit" of an "original numismatic item" and do not eliminate the requirement that the latter be marked with the word "Copy." Accordingly, respondents violated the law by their failure to mark "Copy" upon their 10 Mark Wilhelm I (1887), 10 Mark Wilhelm II (1888), and 20 Mark Wilhelm II (1887). The ALJ had no problems with unmarked coins of dates not used to make the original coins. The FTC did.
For those of you that own Dan Carr pieces, please educate me on how the process works. Does he occasionally make new offerings and sell direct to consumers? Or is there a dealer network or distributors? Every time I check the site DC-Coin.com (assuming I am at the correct site), everything is "sold out". It also doesn't look like too much has been offered in 2026 at all. Does he ever go back and re-issue old designs? I am particularly interested in the Peace Dollars. I wonder if they will ever be made again. Does PCGS slab any/all of his overstrikes? I see SOME releases certified by PCGS, but many series it looks to me like they wont slab. Traditionally, how fast does he sell out of a new release? hours, days, weeks, or months? Just wondering if its a thing where they are all gone in 15 minutes like the US Mint, or there is some longer availability so I dont have to babysit a shopping cart in a waiting room. (looking at you US Mint) For those that have MANY examples, (looking at you @robec ) is there a certain place I should be looking for them beyond just eBay? I feel like there is a secret source I don't know about, or some process that I am not privy to.
All but one Peace token was bought directly from Carr’s Moonlight Mint website at the time each was issued. I don’t think any have been reissued once they were sold out. These normally don’t last more than a day or two before being sold out. Besides eBay these are sometimes found on CU’s BST forum. There is at least one listing for an assortment of Carr’s tokens for sale now. https://forums.collectors.com/discu...-and-other-items-for-sale-on-instagram#latest
It seems very random to me. Some years i look and there are 50+ things for sale, or like now, nothing. Sometimes you have to provide the coin to be struck, sometimes included. Some sell out quickly, some are produced for a certain time range(30, 90 days), or until a number that is set by DC is bought/minted. I dont think pcgs grades any of his, only anacs. Happy hunting!
PCGS does grade some of his work, including his early 1964-D Peace tokens. They will grade any of his medals or tokens that appear in the 6th Edition of Unusual World Coins. It’s a 700 page book with thousands of entries. Carr’s material is well represented.
An overstrike on an actual US coin is still the same coin. It just has been rearranged a bit. Therefore, this Peace Dollar is still a valid US coin, and hitting it with a hammer, chisel, or coin press does not invalidate its provenance as a circulation issue coin originally issued by the US mint. As far as desirability, this let me have a high relief 1921 dollar, and to see some of the original design elements, at a price I could afford. Works for me.
Pretty much the same here most of my DC pieces I bought directly from dc/mm. Most of the graded pieces I bought at auction GC or ebay here are most of those i got direct from DC a couple even "signed" hehe
Does he occasionally make new offerings and sell direct to consumers? Or is there a dealer network or distributors? Every time I check the site DC-Coin.com (assuming I am at the correct site), everything is "sold out". It also doesn't look like too much has been offered in 2026 at all. ~he puts up many items on the website for direct purcharse ~some items are commissioned by the tv networks (HSN) or coin clubs and are only sold by those sources ~2026 was a big year for commissioned items by HSN...there were at least 5 different Silver Eagle Privy items Carr did for them in large numbers so that has taken up most of his time (and thus not much offered directly on his site) Does he ever go back and re-issue old designs? I am particularly interested in the Peace Dollars. I wonder if they will ever be made again. ~he does not "reissue" in the technical sense but he does create new die pairs; for example, the 1964 Peace Dollar has 10 different die pairs in the last 15 or so years...there are differences between each example but some are fairly close to each other so you can argue it is essentially like reissuing the design...below is a link to all the 1964 Peace Dollars (you can compare each one to see how some are similar while others are more different) http://www.moonlightmint.com/blog_1.htm Does PCGS slab any/all of his overstrikes? I see SOME releases certified by PCGS, but many series it looks to me like they wont slab. ~PCGS slabs some that are in the Krause catalog that robec mentioned....that catalog is not being updated so no new items are eligible but some later items have gotten through (PCGS can be inconsistent)...Anacs and ICG will slab all Carr items (with the exception of any that are too big to fit in the standard slab) Traditionally, how fast does he sell out of a new release? hours, days, weeks, or months? Just wondering if its a thing where they are all gone in 15 minutes like the US Mint, or there is some longer availability so I dont have to babysit a shopping cart in a waiting room. (looking at you US Mint) ~it depends on the item...some with low mintages sell out right as they are posted (which could be in the middle of the night-some dedicated people check his site at all times)...others can be available for months For those that have MANY examples, (looking at you @robec ) is there a certain place I should be looking for them beyond just eBay? I feel like there is a secret source I don't know about, or some process that I am not privy to. ~there is no secret place...the first place to check is his website....then it's eBay, Great Collections, the tv places (HSN, CSN Mint), various coin clubs ~there are some unique pieces that are only available at coin shows that Carr sets up at or at Open House tours that he runs at his studio
