El Cazador Shipwreck Coin

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Collecting Nut, Sep 17, 2026 at 6:27 PM.

  1. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I bought this is 2017 for a low modest price. It’s in nice shape and it’s dated 1783. It’s a 1 Silver Real from Mexico. A small piece of the coin is broken off but I’m fine with that. Graded and slabbed by NGC and certified as Genuine.
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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I think I posted the reverse upside down as the crown is that way. Sorry folks.
     
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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Yes that's the first thing I noticed :hilarious:

    That coin was minted a few years before my detected find :cool:
    Half Reale

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  5. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I also have one!!! Bought it slabbed with a case and a nice booklet on the history of the ship.
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  6. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    I should have kept the few 8 reals that I picked years ago but they were bringing good money and people were Snapping them up...3x the money was hard to pass on.
     
  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Aside from the rim breakage, that's really not too bad looking for an El Cazador
    piece. The details on the portrait and the darker grey toning are nice. Sal's 2R is rather more typical looking for the coins from this wreck.

    It is my understanding that 4-reales pieces are a scarcer denomination in general.
     
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  8. Tall Paul

    Tall Paul Supporter! Supporter

    I'm still amazed that you found that coin dirt fishing in NYC.
     
  9. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Many of my Detecting acquaintances here in NYC have detected Reales of different denominations. One guy found two 1 Reales in Pelham Bay Park.
     
  10. philologus_1

    philologus_1 Supporter! Supporter

    That shipwreck was highly significant in terms of the waves it created historically, politically, geographically, and economically in the USA -- as well as sending ripples of impact all the way across 'The Pond' in Spain and France.

    I have an entombed 8R. It is 1783 MO. Below is a snip from NGC's website:
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    For a view of what it actually looks like in terms of detail and color, below is a recent pair of images taken by @denis at last month's ANA Pittsburgh show:
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    (Be sure to click on the image for a much closer peek.)
     

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