Help ID a Silver Denier

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by JoshuaP, Sep 15, 2026 at 9:04 AM.

  1. JoshuaP

    JoshuaP Well-Known Member

    Good morning,

    I bought this coin attributed as this: Baldwin III, King of Jerusalem (r. 1143-1163) Silver Denier – Cross/Tower of David

    However, in all my research , it looks more like an Italy denaro 1272-1339 from Genoa. Would you say that is correct? I fear it is. That means I grossly overpaid. I bought it from Harlan Berk, so I assumed they would know. Oh, well. I guess we all make mistakes.

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    Last edited: Sep 15, 2026 at 9:13 AM
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  3. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

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  4. JoshuaP

    JoshuaP Well-Known Member

    Maybe. I just hate asking! I paid $200 for it, which would have been a good deal. This coin though is probably only worth $50 at the most. I am not loosing a whole lot, it is mostly just disappointing. I will probably bring it up the next time I am there and see what they can do. They have always treated me very well there.
     
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  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Give the ancient coin members time to look at this one. I certainly don’t have a clue. Maybe @Bing can help.
     
  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Sorry. I don't collect these, so I know next to nothing about them
     
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  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Thanks for checking this thread @Bing
     
  8. philologus_1

    philologus_1 Supporter! Supporter

    Pretty nice example! But you are correct about it not being Baldwin III. It is Conrad III. And the mint is indeed Genoa as you surmised. And as @Neal stated above.

    Obverse: Tower side. Legend: ✠ IANVA (with intermittent dots/pellets)
    Reverse: Cross side. Legend: CVNRADI REX

    Sorry, I cannot attribute it to the exact catalogue number. But here are several Conrad III from the Genoa mint:
    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=+IANVA+CVNRADI+REX+-gold+-boxes+-generally+-AV+-1,69&category=1-2&lot=&date_from=&date_to=&thesaurus=1&images=1&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&currency=usd&order=1

    BTW: The average hammer price for the first 3 listed at the above link is $40.33
     
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