American Buffalo 2026 Anniversary 1/10 Oz Gold Coin

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  1. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Moderator

    I sort of see the cause and effect reversed here. I think there are quite a few people who'd like to have at least one or two examples of each, if only they were more accessible. (Could be wrong, though - platinum really isn't as pretty as silver, and palladium even less so.)
     
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  3. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    One must also consider that the gold buffalo is 24 karat versus the 22 karat of the gold eagle.
     
  4. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Moderator

    Still the same actual gold content, though. The AGE is a bit larger and weighs a bit more because of the additional non-precious metal it contains.
     
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  5. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    That I did not know.

    I wonder why the Buffalo does carry a premium over the AGE then? I certainly prefer the design of the Buffalo (glances over at his username and avatar), but don’t think that’s the only reason that it would.
     
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  6. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    LOL. And I thought you were into Moose. Maine cup 2.jpg
     
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  7. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    No, a 1/10th 24k gold coin has more gold alloy than a 1/10th 22k gold American Eagle Coin, they are the same size diameter and thickness. Not a lot more gold alloy but it's not the same. Check it out boss!

    The diameter of the 2008 1/10-ounce American Gold Buffalo coin is 16.5 millimeters.

    Coin Specifications

    • Diameter: 16.5 mm
    • Weight: 3.11 grams (0.1 troy oz)
    • Thickness: 1.19 mm
    • Composition: 99.99% pure gold (.9999 fine)
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    The diameter of a 2008 1/10th oz American Gold Eagle coin is 16.5 mm (0.65 inches) [0.66, 0.68].

    Coin Specifications


    • Actual Gold Content: 0.1 troy oz [0.68]
    • Diameter: 16.5 mm [0.68]
    • Composition: 91.67% gold (22-karat), 3% silver, remainder copper [0.62, 0.68]
    The thickness of a 2008 1/10 oz American Gold Eagle coin is 1.19 mm
     
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  8. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Supporter! Supporter

    Pricing from the Mint appears to be much lower than what is seen in the secondary market for the 2008 coin, the only competitor.

    I think the Mint probably has to use official gold pricing in coming up with a price for a new gold coin. Still, you wonder if they are aware of the premium for the 2008 and taking that into account (or NOT taking it into account, despite wanting to) ?
     
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  9. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Supporter! Supporter

    Wait, I thought all coins had the same amount of gold if they are the same "size" like 1 troy ounce or 1/10th troy ounce ?

    Size would be smaller for a higher content gold alloy, of course. 0.999 or 0.9999 coins are smaller than 0.9167 purity, right ?
     
  10. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Moderator

    No, the AGE has more alloy, because its alloy is only 91.67% gold. Each coin contains exactly 1/10 ozt gold. That's why it says "actual gold content" in the specification for the AGE.

    The 1/10 AGE has a gross weight of 0.1091 ozt, 3.393g, and a fine weight ("actual gold content") of 0.10 ozt (3.11g).

    If the AGE and the Buffalo have the same diameter and nominal thickness, it just means there is more relief struck into the Buffalo, so it contains more "empty space" inside its rim. It's got less total metal in it than the AGE, because it doesn't have the added silver and copper. It weighs less, and its volume is smaller.

    But both coins contain exactly the same amount of gold, to the limit of the Mint's technical capability. (The Mint places much tighter tolerances on gold content than it does on non-PM planchet weights.)
     
  11. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    After 2008 the Mint adjusted its catalog because of low sales: part of this could have been for economic reasons at the time, part of this could have been due to the perception that they had too many different items for sale. This would be the last (and before now, only) year for fractional buffaloes; it was also the last year for fractional platinum eagles, and in 2009 they would make no proof or uncirculated silver eagles. (2009 they would only mint the bullion version of the silver eagles). They almost considered discontinuing fractional gold eagles, but thought better of it as they were still popular among collectors, not just bullion investors.

    The fractional buffaloes have been in demand since, often still selling at around double their gold value. The 1/4 oz is especially in high demand, as it's close to the diameter of the original buffalo nickel. A lot of people have been hoping that fractional buffaloes would come back (I'm one of them!) and the fact that the only ones that exist as of now still sell for significantly above their gold value proves the demand is definitely there.
     
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  12. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    The design might be part of it as far as collector demand goes, but some people just prefer the nearly pure gold coins. Yes you're getting the same amount of gold either way but there is a bit of the preference factor involved.
     
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  13. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Supporter! Supporter

    The weird thing, as many of us were taught in Economics 101 class, is that as the price of gold and these coins has RISEN....the DEMAND has also gone up !!! :wideyed:

    More people want gold when it is rising and more expensive. Ditto silver !! :D

    I saw this at FUN 2026 with lines out the door to get in, mostly from the public looking to buy gold.
     
  14. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    The AGE has 1/10th of mixed metals, it even says and the Gold Buffalo has 1/10th of .999, no mixed metals. That said, I agree to disagree with you but that's why the 24k always sell for a tad more. Oh, and the sizes are the same, same thickness and same diameter.
     
  15. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Moderator

    That's fine, of course - as long as you realize you're also disagreeing with the U.S. Mint. ;)

     
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  16. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    Same thickness and diameter, yes. But not the same weight and composition.
    Dimensions of a 1/10 oz. gold eagle:
    • Diameter: 16.50 mm (0.650 in)
    • Thickness: 1.19 mm (0.047 in)
    • Total Gross Weight: 3.393 grams (0.1091 troy oz)
    • Pure Gold Content: 3.110 grams (0.100 troy oz)
    • Composition: 91.67% gold (22-karat), 3% silver, and the rest copper
    Dimensions of a 1/10 oz. gold buffalo:
    • Diameter: 16.5 mm (0.650 inches)
    • Thickness: 1.19 mm (0.047 inches)
    • Total Gross Weight: 3.11 grams (0.10 troy ounces)
    • Composition: .9999 fine gold (24-karat)
    The gold eagle is a heavier coin and contains material other than gold. But either way you're getting 1/10 troy oz (or 3.11 grams) of gold.

    OK to make the math easier, imagine two coins:
    1 is a 1oz coin made of pure gold. It of course, has 1 oz of gold in it.
    Another is a 2 oz coin that is 50% gold. It also has 1 oz. of gold in it.

    The first coin is pure gold, the second isn't, but both contain the same amount of gold: 1 ounce.

    This is the difference between gold eagles and gold buffaloes. Gold buffaloes are almost pure gold and contain basically nothing else. Gold eagles contain some silver and copper in addition to the gold, but they still have the same amount, coin by coin, as the gold buffaloes.

    Some people just prefer the pure gold coins, maybe for appearance, maybe for design, maybe because if you have a lot of them they just weigh less so it's an easier way to store a lot of gold.

    But they DON'T have MORE gold, and they are not worth more or sell for more because of having more gold in them. They're in higher demand for completely different reasons than that. That is not an opinion; that is a fact.
     
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  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Moderator

    To be fair, the Mint and the market don't do a great job of making this clear. While I was digging around for evidence, I found a page or two on the Mint's site that gave only fine weight (actual gold content), not gross weight. If you're just looking for "how much does an AGE weigh" and land on an official page that says "1.0 troy ounce [or 0.1 troy ounce] fine", it's not much of a leap to accept that as the coin's weight.

    And then there's the whole thing with pre-1933 double eagles containing not quite one troy ounce of gold, because they were based on a gold price set at $20.67 per ounce - or, in the words of the 1900 statute, each gold dollar "...consisting of twenty-five and eight-tenths grains of gold nine-tenths fine". That works out to a $20 gold coin weighing 1.075 troy ounce, but only 90% of that, 0.9675 troy ounce, is actually gold. (Pre-1933 20th century gold was .900 fine; modern AGEs are 22-karat, .9167 fine.)
     
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  18. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Yes the elimination of a large number of products after 2008 is another reason the Buffalo fractionals disappeared. However, unlike some of the items that went away, the Buffalos seemed to have demand and one would have figured the mint would have brought them back at some point. Now making them every year might not have made sense, but a year like 2016, which saw 3 special gold coins (Mercury, SLQ, and Walker), would have made sense to also bring back the Buffalo. Or they could have issued fractional sizes in 2013 as an anniversary piece along with the Reverse Proof 1 oz.
     
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  19. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I don't think they look at the secondary market and most times there is a pricing grid that dictates the amount to charge based on gold price (that grid changes from year to year to increase the premiums). The first exception to this I have seen was the recent Liberty Bell gold coins that were priced around 10k for the 1/2 oz gold and 20k for the 1 oz gold. That was new and appears to have not worked out too well so the mint might not go back to being that aggressive with premiums.
     
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