GTG: guess the grade on my new purchase (1875-P 20c)

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by lordmarcovan, Sep 9, 2026 at 11:51 AM.

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Guess the TPG grade

  1. VF20

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  2. VF25

    1 vote(s)
    4.0%

  3. VF30

    2 vote(s)
    8.0%

  4. VF35

    12 vote(s)
    48.0%

  5. XF40

    7 vote(s)
    28.0%

  6. XF45

    2 vote(s)
    8.0%

  7. AU50

    1 vote(s)
    4.0%

  8. AU53

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  9. AU55

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  10. Details/other (explain in your post)

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  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Just picked this baby up to fill that empty hole in my type set. I bought it as a type coin, but as a bonus, it’s also a Philadelphia mint coin, which by mintage was 30 times scarcer than the “common” 1875-S.

    I’ll reveal the grade after there have been 20-25 votes in the poll.

    Remember, with the 20-cent pieces, the letters in LIBERTY on the shield were raised and not incuse, as they were on the other Seated Liberty denominations.

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    Edit to add the (redacted) TrueView.

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    lordmarcovan, Sep 9, 2026 at 11:51 AM
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  3. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    XF40
     
    ToughCOINS, Sep 9, 2026 at 12:07 PM
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  4. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Awwweee man!!!
     
    Randy Abercrombie, Sep 9, 2026 at 12:50 PM
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  5. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    I voted 40. I don't see any evidence of luster which might have bumped it to 45 since it has a lot of detail left. Looks like original surfaces, or as close to it as makes no difference.

    A nice, healthy example of the type.

    I sold my MS-60 1875-S to Randy at the FUN show in January and have been looking for a replacement ever since in high grade - just haven't found what I wanted much less at a price I was willing to pay.
     
    Publius2, Sep 9, 2026 at 1:08 PM
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  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    I remember your coin, and that sale. I remember it was white. There might be a picture of it back in my voluminous show report, now that I think of it. There is a pic of us together on the bourse floor.
     
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    lordmarcovan, Sep 9, 2026 at 1:27 PM
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  7. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    You can't have it back! LOL
     
    Randy Abercrombie, Sep 9, 2026 at 2:06 PM
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  8. Anthony Mazza

    Anthony Mazza Well-Known Member

    VF35
     
    Anthony Mazza, Sep 9, 2026 at 2:15 PM
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  9. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    I may just be wishing I had one like it, but I went XF45. It lacks luster, but the over-all effect is very nice.
     
    Neal, Sep 9, 2026 at 3:04 PM
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  10. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    35
     
    dwhiz, Sep 9, 2026 at 3:57 PM
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  11. Dafydd

    Dafydd Supporter! Supporter

    I said top end of VF based on the wear on "LIBERTY" on the reverse. On the raw grades I use any wear on lettering or hair precludes it from being Extremely Fine. A really good looking coin though. I really don't get turned on by Sheldon scale points these days as I collect the history more than the coin. A lot of coins I buy these days are in slabs and will have details grades, usually cleaned or shipwreck effect. I used to crack coins out of slabs but now I buy the slabs for the provenance.
    My perfection days are a bit behind me now. Bob Dylan said, "Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now".
    I'm looking forward to seeing the grade @lordmarcovan .
     
    Dafydd, Sep 9, 2026 at 4:23 PM
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  12. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    VF-30

    XF requires full lines in the shield and a sharper "LIBERTY".
     
    Mr. Numismatist, Sep 9, 2026 at 4:29 PM
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  13. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    I gave it xf45.. nice pickup :D
     
    mrweaseluv, Sep 9, 2026 at 4:54 PM
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  14. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I like it at mid-VF. I voted 30, but probably wouldn't be offended by 35.

    It just has too much wear (especially Liberty, as some have mentioned), and not enough luster (as some have also mentioned) to make it to XF.
     
    physics-fan3.14, Sep 9, 2026 at 4:55 PM
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  15. No_Ragrets

    No_Ragrets Self-proclaimed Semi-Amateur Numismatist Supporter

    VF35, judging by the coinfact images. I'm really not overly experienced in grading these fellas, so seeing the Photograde slide bar helped me choose.
     
    No_Ragrets, Sep 9, 2026 at 5:00 PM
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  16. samclemens3991

    samclemens3991 Well-Known Member

    I guessed XF-40. I think market grading, especially since it is the rarer Philly coin, just gets it over the line. A 45 would require more luster; as has been mentioned. The VF-35 crowd make a compelling argument but as the joke/song goes; that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
    Great coin, congrats; like you said, it is far rarer than the "S" coin. James
     
    samclemens3991, Sep 9, 2026 at 5:13 PM
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  17. The Meat man

    The Meat man Supporter! Supporter

    My guess is VF35. Super nice coin!
     
    The Meat man, Sep 9, 2026 at 6:11 PM
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  18. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    XF40 and I stand behind my statement. :smuggrin:
     
    SensibleSal66, Sep 9, 2026 at 7:58 PM
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  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    lordmarcovan, Sep 9, 2026 at 8:25 PM
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  20. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

     
    lordmarcovan, Sep 9, 2026 at 8:31 PM
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  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    If I’d been viewing this blind, in someone else’s poll, I’d likely have likely been initially undecided between XF40 (70%) and XF45 (30%), and likely would have landed on XF40 myself.
     
    lordmarcovan, Sep 9, 2026 at 8:36 PM
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