This flip didn't go well for this person. They paid $20,250 in 2025 and sold it for $11,000+ in 2026

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  1. FrankNYC

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  3. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Looks like the buyer in the GC auction overpaid. And I think a lot was forgiven by the graders for that scratch on the head.
     
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  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Someone's going to be sleeping on the couch. :smuggrin:
    Bad investment planning I guess. What's the old gal valued at anyways?
     
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  5. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Maybe it gives the old gal some character?? But certainly not MS62. :facepalm:
     
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  6. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    "Stupid is what stupid does" Duh...
     
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  7. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    It’s one of those AU-58 coins that was graded MS-62. The big scratch made it less than choice.

    This breaks the myths that all coins bought from Great Collections and Stacks-Bowers can be sold for more at Heritage.
     
  8. Corleone189

    Corleone189 Member

    Oof. Shed half it's value. That is rough.
     
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  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Ouch. Lovely early gold coin, though.
     
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  10. Tall Paul

    Tall Paul Supporter! Supporter

    Actually the auction established its value.
     
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  11. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    This one is graded AU-55. It's the same type. The OP coin has a lot of scruffy mint surface left on it. This one has some general wear. I guess it's a matter of taste.

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  12. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Not a smart flipper, if that’s what the intent actually was. On GC the minimum bid was $18k and they were the only bidder. They paid the full 12.5% bp instead of echeck which would have saved them $450. 13 bidders on HA determined what it’s really worth.
     
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  13. FrankNYC

    FrankNYC Active Member

    This one is my coin. Same grade--MS62, PCGS. I was curious about the GC to Heritage coin because it would have given me an idea of what my coin is worth (I paid closer to the Heritage hammer price for mine). 1808.obv.jpg rev.1808.jpg
     
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  14. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    If you look at the GC archive they paid about $5k more than any other MS62. Buy high, sell low.
     
  15. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    The question is was it an attempt to flip - or was someone just ready to let it go cause they got a better example. Me - when I sell it is always a risk I run. Just not this much money. Lately I have been checking both heritage and great collections results - both sometimes seem to have outliers that sometimes I can't figure out the reason for.
     
  16. FrankNYC

    FrankNYC Active Member

    It appears that this person didn't know what he/she was doing. The initial purchase for 20k was impulsive. Comps last year when it was purchased was about 15k. If this person is wealthy they could have gone for an MS 63/64 which are periodically available. This isn't a coin that you have wait years for to upgrade.
     
  17. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Yep, someone took it in the shorts, ouch! lol.gif
     
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  18. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Sometimes just really hard to figure out what bidders are thinking or doing - but this case does appear to a pretty simple screw up. Sometimes I think the same thing with some of the wild toners with bidding.
     
  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    That’s almost enough to make me glad I’m a wee peasant who doesn’t play in those leagues. The mere thought of a ~$9K loss gives me an ulcer.

    Only in the last few years did I ever cross the four-figure threshold for the first time. And five figures? Fuhgeddaboutit! That will never be me.
     
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  20. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I hold items for so long that I seldem have losses, at least on paper.

    The biggest hit I have ever than was about $1 thousand.

    I would take a much bigger one if I tried to sell an 1877 Proof Twenty Cent Piece I have. I got caught up in the promotion on this issue when someone tried to corner the market. I sold a so-so one that I had bought in a Heritage auction via one of those "Buy it from the owner" transactions. As a Twenty Cent piece nut, I HAD to replace it. I bid high on a high grade one in an auction, and didn't get it. Then I bought a decent one, but paid too much.

    Here is my "burial." It's graded PR-64.

    1877 Twenty Cent me All.jpg
     
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  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    I did lose $400 on a coin once (a significant sum for me, especially at the time). It was when I sold the only Dahlonega coin I’ve ever owned. But the proceeds of the deal bought my daughter her first (cheap, used) car, so it was worth taking the hit that one time.

    We did the deal in person in a truck stop parking lot, with me never getting out of my car and him standing outside it. Check and coin passed through the car window. If anyone had been watching, I’m sure it looked for all the world like a drug deal goin’ down. :p

    Come to think of it, I’ve maybe lost more than won when selling higher-priced stuff. I’ve done much better with the two- and three-figure stuff.
     
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