1944 25c NGC MS67 - correctly graded?

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Do you think this coin is accurately graded at MS67?

  1. Yes, I think it fits within the parameters

    6 vote(s)
    35.3%
  2. No, I think it’s slightly overgraded

    8 vote(s)
    47.1%
  3. No, I think it’s grossly overgraded

    2 vote(s)
    11.8%
  4. Maybe, maybe not - too close to call

    1 vote(s)
    5.9%
  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    (Not my coin)

    Do you think this coin is correctly graded? It is in an NGC MS67 holder.

    This clearly has great luster and nice clean fields. And I like the very, very subtle hints of color.

    My only concern is the tiny tickmark (“shaving cut”) on George’s jawline. In your opinion, does that still fall within the parameters of the grade, or has this piece been overgraded?

    It is entirely possible the lighting in the photo exaggerated that little mark. But it’s plainly there.

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  3. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    Looks MS-66 to me, although it is just a picture. I do think it is closer to a 67 than a 65, but not quite.
     
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  4. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I don't like the several small marks for the grade, however the luster looks absolutely killer!
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    … main reason it caught my eye.
     
  6. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Nice coin, congrats.
     
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  7. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    The tick on the cheek is a concern, yes.

    But I'm also concerned about the long wispy mark in the left obverse field. That is highly distracting to me.

    I think its a 65 obverse, with a 66+ reverse... Net 66. Plus one for what appears to be nice eye appeal, maybe?

    If you're looking for a 67 for a type set, as I suspect you are... this isn't it. There are better, and wait for a good one.
     
  8. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I think it is fine as 67. Especially if it has really nice luster on the coin.
     
  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Not mine, as mentioned, though I’ve thought about it.
    Thanks for that detailed assessment and useful advice. Whether I ultimately follow it or not, I’ll certainly take what you said into account. Another reason this coin caught my attention (far removed from any rational considerations) is that it also happens to be from my late mother’s birthyear. But that’s neither here nor there, and ‘44-P coins are super common in every denomination.
    Thanks. Nice to also hear a vote in favor. Makes it interesting.
     
  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    As of this post, the poll is tied 5 to 5, between “makes the grade” and “slightly overgraded”.
     
  11. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I'm a little tough on Washington quarters, MS65.
     
  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    It seems it is now about to be, as part of a five-coin swap I'm doing with NEN (more on that later, perhaps). So it was a mostly barter transaction. I'll learn to live with that little tick on George's jaw, and hopefully it won't appear so bad in hand.
     
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  13. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I am thinking you won't notice it under a 5x glass.
     
  14. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    MS-67 means you have to hunt to find the problems. This one has an obvious mark on Washington's jaw, a scratch in the field and numerous other small marks. I'd say MS-65, which makes it grossly over graded.

    BTW, PCGS kind of "owns" the grading for the modern coin market.
     
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  15. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I think it is solid as a 66, but the jaw tic really keeps it from 67 imo
     
  16. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I think it is ok as a 67. I would like it more as a 66 but don't have a problem with the grade.
     
  17. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Except when it comes time to pay for it. Coinfacts says an MS-66 is worth $50. An MS-67 lists for $275. An MS-65, which what I grade it, is $32. How much do you want to be buried into a common date coin?

    Having learned my lessons in the “school of hard knocks,” I pose those questions to myself.
     
  18. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    If the eye appeal is nice in hand, I would guess that it would sell closer to the guide price and there would be multiple buyers interested. Others would pass but the buyer would not necessarily be buried. There are also plenty of greysheet buyers who pay something like 10%-20% back of sheet regardless of what the coin looks like (I don't agree with the method but it happens).

    I found another recent sale in the same grade for around $175. That coin is nicer is some ways but still has hits and what looks like minor spotting. When a coin is average or below, the auction market tends to discount it. So if the majority of people figured that the the original coin was not worthy, it should sell for enough under guide where the buyer is not too buried.

    https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/2155593/1944-Washington-Quarter-NGC-MS-67

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