Which would you keep for a type set...

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by mark_h, Aug 14, 2026 at 10:59 PM.

  1. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    So would you keep an 1864 2c small motto MS64BN or an 1864 Large Motto MS65RB for a type set? if it matters both are CAC coins. I get why both are not normally included in a type set. Now the spots on the small motto are on the holder, but the small motto does have I guess a weak strike spot on the shield. The 1865 has a better over all strike and the reverse is a little more brown than obverse. Both sets of pictures are really old from heritage.

    LOL - Chatgpt says keep small motto. It is kind of funny reading the price trends on it.

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  3. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    No hesitation, both!
     
  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Small motto because it's worth way more than the 1864 Large motto. I had a small motto that I "dug" metal detecting and sold it in details condition- Environmentally damaged. Raw. For $150! It had Fine details. This coin is much nicer! :)
     
  5. JoshuaP

    JoshuaP Well-Known Member

    I tend to lean towards key date in the realm of type sets - especially if the grades are close.
     
  6. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I’d find a way to keep both.
     
  7. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Well, butter my butt and call me a biscuit!

  8. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I'm going to base my decision completely on the pictures presented.

    The bottom left picture is by far the absolute best. Color, luster, brightness, sharpness... best picture of the 4.

    So I pick that one.
     
  9. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    If you can keep both.
     
  10. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    OOPsy - suppose to be MS65. :) And right after I posted it I wondered how many would say keep both. I can do that- not sure just yet. I know on my dimes, quarters and halves I am going to be putting all the extra's up at auctions - except of for a few exceptions like my 1892 coins, 1 half cent. So far these two I keep going back and forth on if I release one or keep both.

    Thanks all for the input.
     
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  11. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    SM . . . a better date, and better balance in appearance between both sides of the coin.
     
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  12. Jersey magic man

    Jersey magic man Supporter! Supporter

    If it were me, it would be the small date.
     
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  13. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Keep both. In my type set, I targeted acquiring both small and large motto and filled them with a 1864 MS-62BN (SM) and 1869 PR-64RB (LM). But it's your type set and you set the criteria for fulfillment.

    When I was selling off my 7 coin set of Walking Liberty Proofs, I had to decide which to keep for my type set. The highest graded one was PR-67, but the 1936 was PR-64. I decided to keep the 1936 for several reasons:

    Key date for the proofs.
    Much more valuable coin.
    Easiest to sell whenever the time comes around.
    More likely to increase in value than the more common of the proofs.

    AND:

    I just liked it more than the others.
     
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  14. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    If it were me, I would keep the small motto, but if I could afford it, I would deep both, since, in a way, they represent different types.
     
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  15. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    A 100% true type set would require both.
    That being said I would be happy to have either.
     
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  16. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I have both, but that’s because I’m a type coin nut who has been doing it for 60 years and who has dived beyond the norm with a type set.

    If you want to get technical, the large motto is the design which defined the series. The one you have is also higher grade. I read at one time that the small motto was a pattern coin die the mint decided to use.

    But since you have both, I’d consider keeping both. It’s not like having a pet dog. It doesn’t eat and require walks.
     
  17. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Well for now I will keep both. I have been working on what I have extra. So I am keeping about 16 extra coins including the small motto. That leaves like 20 or 21 to go to auction. I still have to decide on my 1909-VDB which is PCGS 65rd - but it was only $100 coin when I got in so long ago(so probably going to keep it also). Oh - well need to fill in a more holes on the set. Thanks all.
     
  18. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Supporter! Supporter

    Hope this isn't too far off topic but I've collected a sub type of Morgan Dollars. I still need to send one off for grading and attribution, and two more to VSS for the label on the back of the slabs. I believe I now have 12 of them now, 1886 VAM1-C, in grades from MS64 to MS67, one of which is MS65 PL. Maybe when I get them all together one day, I'll take a group photo and post the entire table full of them.:p
     
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  19. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Supporter! Supporter

    Keep them both, I have duplicates of duplicates of duplicates. It's hard to part with them.
     
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  20. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Well really no duplicates in a sense as of dates, but for example like above I have and multiples that fit a category on my 19th century type set. Like I have an 1855 and 1849 half cent, 1838 and 1840 no drapery half dimes - all of which I am keeping. The 1838 and 1855 are listed in the set. Now some of the other coins I like but really have no affinity for(like everything after about 1920) on is out for auction. So my deal is why have a couple thousand tied up in what I consider moderns when I can buy a really nice coin to fill a hole in the type set. It also keeps me from pulling more money from my pocket now that I am retired.
     
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  21. kountryken

    kountryken Well-Known Member

    Glad you are able to keep both. But, for me, if i was only keeping one, it would be the small date. Harder to find, and, more expensive.
     
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