Looks like a Business strike. I wouldn't know an SMS if it bit me in the behind! Beautiful Toning though.
I recall seeing more SMS examples with toning than business strikes (but that alone is not enough to make a call). Also the SMS tends to be more prooflike but then toning can make that less evident. One more possible thing to look for are scattered small hits. Business strikes are more likely to have them from being handled less carefully than the SMS examples. Making a guess, I would say SMS here ...with some room for doubting my own call
Yeah I know... I lean to the rims more than the surfaces, It's a hell of a strike, but the rims are paper thin. The striated planchet, could be a thin clad layer. It has me a little puzzled I will check your comments. Thanks.
Does the toning cause those striations or just accent die polish lines? I'm clueless on some of this stuff.
There is a roller machine that flattens the planchets to the proper thickness before they are punched from the strips into planchets. If the metal is stretched, or the rollers keep moving but the bed feeding the strip doesn't, It causes striated lines that the mint thought they could strike away. Most always these heavily striated coins cause come wild toning. Here is a 2020 Roosevelt.
These are two different coins. The first looks like the lines are from the rollers from what I think is called a draw press. The second coin has die polish lines. Click on the images for a larger view. Note how the die polish lines stop at the devices.
I have a couple of Ikes, just the same Larry. and a Quarter. This only shows the striations on the obv.
Ps Back to the original coin. The dealer called it an SMS, he couldn't recall if it came out of a SMS set or came in in a collection.
Dang! Look at those striation lines! I just posted a question about them on Coin Chat. Help a brutha out, read, and comment please!
Here is another new purchase labeled an SMS. This one looks like a coin with specially prepared dies and planchets.
i can't tell. but my graded examples are proof mirror like(field) with the 65 being more satinish. rims i might consider thin, and seem nicely centered but not perfect.
after review of my limited examples, i need to use my microscope to see that the field tells the story and then the devise. just as you said looks have used special prepped struff. in short they show a proof quality disclaimer... i only have one mint state clad from 1980 in cello, inspection of it shows a kind of low quality coin. i have a few 1965-67 probably in vf condition that look the part of an sms but the totally fail under the scope.
upon even more study.......i cannot tell the difference between an sms and a high grade mint state after looking at fotos on the gc site. maybe a topic for another thread?
They are tough to tell especially when you get to the gem and gem + grades. There are many threads on CT about this topic.
