Machine doubling?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Pleasantwilliam, Jun 4, 2026 at 4:47 PM.

  1. Pleasantwilliam

    Pleasantwilliam New Member

    Hello,is this machine doubling please?
     

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  4. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    What year is it? You can always check online against known varieties
    (Wexler's) and see if the doubling matches yours. https://doubleddie.com/
    If there is nothing listed for that year, mint, obv/rev it is unlikely you have a discovery coin after 100+ years.
     
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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    It looks flat and shelflike. So to me it's probably worthless doubling.

    But maybe @Rick Stachowski can chime in. He's much better at varieties.
     
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  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Full pics of the obverse and reverse are needed. Morgans are mostly identified by VAM's.
    Welcome Pleasant William.
     
  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Cause by a worn die.
     
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  8. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Dunno. o_O
    Where's @Rick Stachowski at? He knows much about this kind of thing. :)
     
  9. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    To me, it's machine/mechanical doubling. All of the "shadows" are evident in the same rotational direction. It is a die loose in the holder and the doubling will stop when the holder is tightened.
     
  10. Pleasantwilliam

    Pleasantwilliam New Member

    Thank you for all of your thoughts/opinions.
     
  11. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Still year and MM are needed if you want an answer your doubling question.
     
  12. Pleasantwilliam

    Pleasantwilliam New Member

    1878 P Morgan 8 tail feathers
     
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  13. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    1878 8 Tail Feathers (8TF) VAM-18 (Doubled Date): Features clear doubling on the date, letters in "LIBERTY," and the motto.
    1878 8TF VAM-5 (Doubled RIB): Known for distinct doubling at the base of the letters "RIB" in "PLURIBUS" on the reverse.
    Because 1878 dies were frequently experimental, there are dozens of minor doubled dies. Prices range wildly depending on the specific VAM, the coin's condition, and whether it has a Prooflike (PL) or Deep Mirror Prooflike (DMPL) finish. Common varieties in circulated condition may carry modest premiums, while top-tier varieties in high Mint State (MS) grades can fetch thousands.
    To verify if your coin is a doubled die, check the date, "LIBERTY", and "E PLURIBUS UNUM" with a 10x jeweler's loupe for signs of notched letters, rounded edges, or split serifs.

    The "notched letters" and "split serifs" are keys to true doubled dies.
    I don't think yours has those features, but wait for an expert opinion.
     
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  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Full sized photos of both sides in their entirely are needed.
     
  15. Pleasantwilliam

    Pleasantwilliam New Member

     

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  16. Pleasantwilliam

    Pleasantwilliam New Member

    Coins been cleaned,Thanks again for the information.
     
  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    That coin has definitely seen a harsher cleaning. I’m not seeing any signs of doubling other than machine doubling. It’s also the 7 tail feathers variety. Shame about the cleaning as that really lowers the value. The values are higher as only 749,500 were minted of this variety.
     

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