NGC Submission is Back, Guess the fake

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Chris B, May 16, 2026 at 10:13 AM.

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Which one is the fake?

This poll will close on May 19, 2026 at 10:13 AM.
  1. 1) 1772 Frankfurt Thaler D-2226

  2. 2) 1606 Mansfeld Thaler D-6977

  3. 3) ca.1652 Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel Thaler D-6362A

  4. 4) 1612 Saxe-Gotha Thaler D7429

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  1. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    I recently sent in 16 world coins to NGC for grading. I have gotten pretty good over the years at guessing the letter grade but admit that I am terrible at identifying problem coins unless it is pretty obvious.

    This submission had it's share of "cleaned" coins that I missed but one came back body-bagged as "NOT GENUINE". I am pretty shocked. Of course they don't give you a lot of details but, I am assuming it is a contemporary counterfeit.

    NGC does their Photo Vision pictures prior to grading so I still got high quality images of all of them.

    Below are 4 of the coins from the submission. If you want, take a guess at which one you think came back as the fake. I'll let this cook all weekend and reveal which one it is Sunday night.

    1) 1772 Frankfurt Thaler D-2226
    8444123-003v.jpg-60p.jpg

    2) 1606 Mansfeld Thaler D-6977
    8444123-004v.jpg-60p.jpg

    3) ca.1652 Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel Thaler D-6362A
    8444123-006v.jpg-60p.jpg

    4) 1612 Saxe-Gotha Thaler D7429
    8444123-005v.jpg-60p.jpg
     
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  3. mlov43

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    The fake is #3
     
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  4. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    That’s a bummer, Chris. I’m throwing a guess on the 1772 piece. That one is giving me the most “off” vibes.
     
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  5. Dafydd

    Dafydd Supporter! Supporter

    I think 3 too.
     
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  6. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    #4 - the guy on the left has the same expression I'd have if I were facing someone with four eyes...
     
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  7. The Meat man

    The Meat man Supporter! Supporter

    That's a bummer! Hope you can get your money back.
    I'm going to guess the fake is #4.
     
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  8. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I don't know squat about foreign coins, but #3 looks like a casting to me.
     
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  9. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Yeah.... I am in the #3 camp too.
     
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