William 1st or 2nd?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by David Woodhouse, May 3, 2026 at 3:42 PM.

  1. David Woodhouse

    David Woodhouse Active Member

    This morning I found this cut half while metal detecting. I can't make my mind up whether it's a William 1st type 7 or a William 2nd type 1. I think it might be a William 2nd. Any help appreciated.
     

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  3. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    You've got one sharp polished shovel.
     
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  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    It's a short cross.
    Cool find!
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  5. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Most closely resembles William II BMC 1 (S-1258) from what I can tell.
     
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  6. David Woodhouse

    David Woodhouse Active Member

    Thank you for your feedback. I'm now more confident about it being a William 2nd. I'm amazed at its condition after over 900 years buried in the soil. It only needed a quick soak under a running tap to remove the mud and reveal its beauty.
     
  7. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Here is a William II which is something similar.

    William II Profile Penny.jpg
     
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  8. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    I can make out the ǷILLELM REX part, mint seems to be Winchester (ǷINC), but moneyer is unclear.
     
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  9. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    With some of William II's coins and a lot more of Henry I and especially Stephen coins, you are happy to be able to figure out the king. Those kings issued terrible coins.

    These are "nice."

    Henry I Henry's coins should have improved after the "Christmas present" he gave to a group of moneyiers who were short changing the silver in the coins. To put it nicely, "He got medieval on their butts."

    Henry I penny S-1275.jpg

    Stephen

    Stephen Penny S 1278 All.jpg
     
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  10. David Woodhouse

    David Woodhouse Active Member

    John Milton, I totally agree with you about the poor state of coinage produced across several reigns. Those above are gorgeous and way better than most. I have been fortunate to have found quite a few Henry 1st coins/fractions. My most interesting was my type 10 penny by the moneyer Anderam at Leicester, an unknown moneyer until my find appeared. With regard to my William 2nd, I have had confirmation from Martin Allen at the Fitzwilliam Museum that my coin is a William 2nd Type 1 minted in Canterbury. It has been added to the EMC under the reference 2026.0140
     
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