Help with translating the reverse of a Henry VI Noble

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  1. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I just acquired this gold noble of British king Henry VI.
    Henry VI Noble S 1799 All.jpg

    I can translate the obverse: HENRIC DI GRA REX ANGL Z FRANC DNS HYB "Henry (VI) by the grace of God king of England and France Lord of Ireland

    The reverse is beyond me. IHC AUT TRANSIENS PER MEDIUM ILLORU IBAT

    The Internet yields nothing but jibberish and my trusty volume of England's Striking History covers silver coins and does not do much with gold.

    I would also like some help with the mint.

    Thank you to anyone who can help.

    This was a coin for royalty and the wealthy. It was worth 6 shillings and 8 pence which works out to 80 pence.
     
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  3. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    This page looks convincing to me:

    https://www.mintageworld.com/media/detail/2566-gold-noble-of-king-henry-vi/

     
  4. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Thank you, @jeffB!
     
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  5. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    It's a confusing, chaotic world to be sure when I find a coin-related answer that had you stumped! I don't expect it to happen a second time. :)
     
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  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Wild Story, the reign of an imprisoned King!
     
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  7. kountryken

    kountryken Well-Known Member

    Ok, because I love history, and like to just "know" things, I wondered where "lis" mint was. So I googled it and got the following info. All of y'all probably already knew this, but it was new to me. Very nice coin @johnmilton. Glad you got it and shared it!

    The mint in England operating around 1421–1422 that used a lis (fleur-de-lis) mintmark on gold quarter nobles was the London Mint, located within the Tower of London. These coins, specifically from the beginning of Henry VI's first reign (beginning 1422, produced from late 1421), feature a lis above the royal arms.
    The Britannia Coin Company
    Mint Location: The Tower of London.
    Context: While the Calais mint was active, the lis mark on gold quarter nobles (1421-1430) is associated with the London Mint production.
    Time Period: Henry V/Early Henry VI era, specifically 1421–1422.
    The Britannia Coin Company
    Although the "annulet" issue is more famous for the 1422-1430 period, the lis was a common mark of this transitionary era.

    in England operating around 1421–1422 that used a lis (fleur-de-lis) mintmark on gold quarter nobles was the London Mint, located within the Tower of London. These coins, specifically from the beginning of Henry VI's first reign (beginning 1422, produced from late 1421), feature a lis above the royal arms.
    • Mint Location: The Tower of London.
    • Context: While the Calais mint was active, the lis mark on gold quarter nobles (1421-1430) is associated with the London Mint production.
    • Time Period: Henry V/Early Henry VI era, specifically 1421–1422.
    Although the "annulet" issue is more famous for the 1422-1430 period, the lis was a common mark of this transitionary era.
     
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  8. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The coin is a gold noble, and it is raw.

    I have a half noble of Edward III who was the king who restarted Bitish gold coinage after it ended in the Dark Ages.

    Edward III Half Noble All.jpg

    The other is a noble for Henry IV. Henry IV coins are hard to get because most of the coins issued during his fairly short reign were too heavy. They were sent to the continent where most were melted.

    After having offers of Henry IV pennies, which looked like they had been run over by a railroad train and hearing that they were “bargains” @ $2,800, I bought this Noble. PCGS massively over graded it as an AU-58, but it filled the hole and didn’t look like a hunk of junk.

    Henry IV Noble me O.jpg Henry IV Noble me R.jpg
     
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  9. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    Luke 4:30 : "Ipse autem transiens per medium illorum ibat".
    here is the context : "28 All the people in the synagogue were furious when they heard this. 29 They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the brow of the hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him off the cliff. 30 But he walked right through the crowd and went on his way."
     
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