Bad experiences with dealers

I can't speak for everyone else, but while I know I'm lucky and blessed to "have that" -- a big part of the reason I "have that" is because I SAVED instead of dropping hundreds or thousands on coins.

I could clean it all out and spend it all on patterns today. I could build a pretty nice collection. (Maybe I could get some eBay sellers to let me have them for 60% of ask.) Instead, I choose to content myself with reading about them, and sometimes looking at them at shows.

Some people are in dire straits through no fault of their own. You're not making a strong case here that you're one of them.

 

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An online coin forum is not the place to advertise you are bidding on coins you can't pay for because you have medical expenses for your daughter, nor is it the place to advertise what a burden it is having to pay child support and medical insurance bills.

 

Agreed.

 

To counter a 60% discount offer means I am bidding against myself. I owe you nothing.
Your 60% offer screams you are (choose one, several, or all)...
a dreamer
a tire kicker
a bottom feeder
looking for something for nothing
shopping out of your league
trying to live beyond your means
a bad customer/buyer/ebay buyer
As a business owner I politely and firmly tell people like you "I can't meet your expectations, perhaps you would do better someplace else".

 

Need popcorn for this...

 

Values?! What values?

 

Spell check, spell check, spell check!!!

 

I don't make eBay offers based on percentages of the BIN. I make them based on what a fair price is. Some sellers inflate their prices thinking that having a best offer option listed equates to advertising that you will accept less money. They aren't entirely wrong in thinking that, but sometimes it's way off and you see a $15 coin listed as $150 or best offer. If I'm interested, I'll offer $15. Maybe they're fishing, but maybe they don't know the fair market value.

Sometimes the prices are already fair though. I've bought many best offer auctions at the listed BIN without making an offer. As a seller, I would never block someone for making a lowball offer. That's nuts. If you choose to accept offers, then be prepared to get offers you don't like. You just click decline. That's what it's there for.

 

Thank you Jaelus! That's a great summary and methodology.

 

Jeff I had it ,15 years worth of it ,, 264 thousand worth of it and in one fell swoop my ex wife ram horn it ... All

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Man, I hope that you DIDN'T use spellcheck again.

 

I'm sorry that you had a bad divorce. That's a definite misfortune, and may well not have been entirely your fault.

Now, why are you spending money on coins -- or promising to spend money on them, then backing out -- before you've managed to rebuild your finances?

 

I agree that blocking someone for a single lowball offer to be overly harsh, but the time can come where it's completely reasonable. The fact is that there is always someone perfectly willing to waste another person's time, and once it becomes clear this is all its ever going to be, blocking them (in the case of eBay) or refusing to further deal with them (in person) is reasonable. If Leeroy is such a person I do not know, but something tells me there's more to the story than we've been told.

 

We are getting the story, 1200 or so for child support, 1300 or so for medical insurance, a more than a quarter of a million dollar divorce settlement. Makes lowball bids on coins he can't pay for, then expects a seller to wait two weeks for payment. Can't use smell check to save his life. And I haven't shared anything that he himself hasn't shared himself - all in this thread.

 

I swear this is the closest thing to a good old fashioned Detecto thread we've had in some time. The recently-returned Timmy had better up his game....

 

Yeah, I miss the rants about Auto-Zone and Menards and his communistic train of thought.

 

It's not so much the offer itself and usually one won't get a block, but if it's a pattern or the buyer just presents themselves as being difficult the only defense sellers really have is to block

 

And McDonald's and UPS conspiring against him, his magical ability to propel the world "1000 years into the future" with a company that would dwarf Apple, GM, Walmart, etc together if only someone would hand him a $100k. Oh, and how he was going to die if we didn't all chip in to buy him a new car, and to show how grown up he'd become, he wasn't even going to ask us to pay for insurance, has, etc... you can't make this stuff up!

One would think he'd have some more stories to tell us by now. You know, being a "CEO" and all...

 

Am I the only one who thinks trying to run a wholesale business without a good credit line is borderline insane?

 

I suppose all would depend on the business and the means of the individual running it. That said though, who is this in reference to? This thread is all over the place and is hard to keep track.