Matte Proof Lincoln?

Pics aren't mine.

 

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Maybe? It has the look of one but the rims look off.

 

The best I can do from these pics is, "Dang, I need to look closer at this one." Let's just say I'd be a buyer.

 

I want to know more.

 

Here's a certified 1909 Matte Proof I have for comparison

 

The orientation of the letters in LIBERTY look identical. The rims look correct as well.

 

Maybe too clean for a business strike. Looks like sharp rims to me.

 

The front edge of the coat seems to have a deficient strike.

 

That's not typical of a matte proof, is it?

 

I'm gonna go with a hammered strike, not a proof.

 

Rims too asymmetric for a Matte IMO.

 

Seller goes out of his way to say, "no returns if you send it off for grading because it is no longer in the original holder."

Red flag!

 

I have seen several circulation strikes 1909's with squared rims like that.

Im gonna say no to being a matte proof. I think the lighting over exaggerates the coin's surfaces and color. Even in these pics it looks too "flat" to be a MPL

 

Is he offering it as one or is this just a general thing he adds to all coin listings?

 

After examining the photos more and considering some of the other comments I'm leaning towards this not being a matte proof. The example matte proof I posted pictures of earlier has more hair details as well as other areas. After more examination the rims also look different. IMO

 

Y'all have at it. I like that he quotes scrupture, too.
Item number 122385827751

 

Then to hell with it!

 

Red flag indeed.

Now to get me some biblical edjumacatin.

 

Ooohh, does he quote the good bits about moneychangers?

 

"All the die diagnostics.... are clearly seen...."

Can you see them? Other than no crack below the bust, I'm unable to make out much of anything.