Help with History

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  1. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Last week this coin arrived and I couldn't be more pleased with it. Well struck and centered with good details even though worn through use. However, when doing research on this coin as I normally do when I receive a new coin, I could find very little about this coin or it's moneyer. First, every resource says it was struck between 108 and 107 BC, but the moneyers of that time period were not related that I can tell. Second, while researching the name, again no connection to that time period of 108-107 BC. I would greatly appreciate any additional information if anyone here knows.

    Now the coin itself:
    L VALERIUS FLACCUS.jpg
    L VALERIUS FLACCUS ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS VALERIA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Draped bust of Victory right, star under chin
    REVERSE: Mars walking left, carrying trophy; L. VALERI./ FLACCI. and a flamen's cap before and grain-ear behind
    Struck at Rome 108-109 BC
    3.7g, 18mm
    Cr306/1, Syd 565, Valeria 11

    Thanks for looking, and of course any comments are appreciated.
     
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  3. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Great coin, Bing! The face in profile is beautiful!

    @Ed Snible is great at ID-ing unusual coins.
     
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  4. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    Here's what Crawford says about it on the entry for number 306:

    The moneyer is presumably L. Valerius Flaccus, Cos. 100. The figure of Mars and the apex together recall the fact that the moneyer's father, Cos. 131, held the office of Flamen Martialis(an office probably held at the time of this issue by the Albinus of Cicero, Brutus 135, but later to be held by the Consul of 100). For the corn-ear see page 729.​

    Here Cos. is short for Consul and the dates are of course in B.C.

    From page 729:

    The other remarkable fact is the relatively advanced age at which some moneyers in this period held the office - within ten years of their consulates(see pp. 710-11). It is hard to avoid the conclusion that the moneyership was in the case of such men a substitute for an aedileship; self-advertisement was a feature of both offices. The surmise is perhaps confirmed by the occurence of what may be called 'aedilican' types, referring to games in the circus and to corn-distributions as in the coinage of Cn. Domitius(no. 261), or only to corn-distributions, as in that of T. Cloulius(no. 260). It is almost as if the moneyers concerned placed on their coins an indication of what they would have provided if they had been elected Aediles​

    His footnote after this section references several issues that included corn-ears(British English for ears of grain in general), one of which is your type, 306.

    Hope this helps! Nice coin by the way
     
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  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I love citations.........:)
     
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  6. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Just learned something:happy: Nice addition Bing!
     
  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    That's exactly what I was looking to find. Thank you so much. Normally, I can find this info in on-line resources, but the dates of Consulships didn't add up. I really appreciate your help.
     
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  8. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Really cool coin @Bing
    I find it a relief that I'm not the only one that buys coins half not knowing anything about it.
    But it sure is fun learning that piece when it hits your hand :panda:
     
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  9. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice addition, I have the same. Love the portrait on these.

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    L. Valerius Flaccus, (108 - 107 B.C.)
    AR Denarius
    O: Winged and draped bust of Victory right, X below chin.
    R: LVALERI / FLACCI (downwards on left), Mars walking left, spear in right, trophy in left over shoulder, apex left, head of grain behind.
    Rome
    20.0mm
    3.89g
    SRCV I 183, Sydenham 565, Crawford 306/1, RSC I Valeria 11
     
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  10. alde

    alde Always Learning

    The portrait on these really caught my eye. Here's mine. Republic Denarius Valeria.png
     
  11. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Great coin!
     
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  12. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Awesome OP-addition, Big Bro ... congrats on another sweet AR RR
     
  13. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    the bust of victory on this coins is one of my favorite portrayals of her! cool new RR AR bing!
     
  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I do not have that gorgeous example @Bing !

    I have a later descendant of the family:

    RR Rutilius Flaccus 77 BCE Roma Biga wreath S 318 Cr 387-1 Obv-Rev.jpg
    RR Rutilius Flaccus 77 BCE Roma Biga wreath S 318 Cr 387/1
     
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