1812 Capped Bust Half Dollar 1812/1 ? Something under the 2

My "whole coin" pictures are fuzzy, but there's enough under the 2 in the date to make me ask questions.

Thoughts?

 

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Is it a large or small 8? You could have the 2 over 1!

 

That does not look like the overdate to me at all.

 

Show us the whole coin and even fuzzy, we may be able to i.d. the Overton for you.

 

Let's see........0? No! 1? No! 2? No! 3? No! 4? No! 5? No! 6? No! 7? No! 8? No! 9? No! Maybe the number is in Arabic.

Chris

 

If a large 8 and 2 over 1, $2500.00 plus. I cannot tell from the pictures, something there, but nothing like over date pictures published.

 

not the overdate

 

Neither of the two overdates manifest themselves in that location; another explanation will be required.

As a quick hint usable with these pics, both O-101 and O-102 appear to have the vertical shaft of the second 1 roughly centered over the space between denticles. That digit here appears to be centered over a denticle itself. A similar discrepancy exists with the location of the left point of the 2 on this coin; on both known varieties that point is adjacent to a denticle space at the left end of a denticle.

 

Using only that picture, I'm about 80% sure this is the O-107.

 

The top of the underlying mark does look like a "1" but it appears to be in the wrong location - and wrong size if it is. I think I confirmed it's a small date. If you disagree, I'd love to know it.

 

Not the small 8, either. It is Overton 105.

 

If I had been able to nail the Overton from just that partial date pic, I would've been legennnnnndary.

 

For future reference, when referring to the 12/1 large 8 I've heard it said, "If you see the 1, it AIN"T!"

 

Ok, so we are agreed that's a standard 1812 - and a few brainiacs have identified it as an O-105. (And I thank you!). I gotta wonder what is underneath the 2. Too bad it's so worn.

Thanks all!

 

I love the look of your coin! Circulated cameo appearance. Nice.

The O.105 obverse die was cracking badly around the date. Late die states are really impressive.

My first thought was it was a common die chip. But I checked a lot of O.105's and couldn't see anything that matched up. Still, it is the most likely answer.

Here's a LDS, just for fun.
Lance.

 

OP's coin is interesting. I originally thought that the chip was simply the start of the crack, but after looking at it again I don't see the die crack up through the 8 to the second 1 which occurs before the crack through the 2. Plus, it is in the wrong place to be the start of that crack anyway. Great coin that I would love to examine in hand sometime.