To me they are both the same grade. However, neither TPG likes wood graining. I think the second is the higher grade. 8 - 10
Most of you agreed with the TPG's. If I were buying one to complete a Lincoln set, I'd prefer the NGC coin, which has better eye appeal. But there is a touch more technical detail on the PCGS one.
Yeah, what do those guys know.! Missing a large green spot and straight grading a scratched up altered coin's obverse so they will be liable in the future.
It's called net grading a key date. You know that insider. I bet it would have detailed a more common date or even a 31s but it was just ok enough to squeak out a straight 8
I forgot to add: These 2 coins sold for the exact same price, despite the differing grades on the holder.
FWIW, everyone, the PCGS one is not cleaned or anything. It's an improperly mixed alloy. Pretty clear when you see it in hand, like many Wheat Cents. Having said that, the NGC coin is much more pleasant to gaze upon...
You know, he knows... in fact most of us do. Some of us just don't like those exceptions. In terms of Morgan dollars: an 1881-S (in theory) shouldn't be graded stricter than a key date Morgan, right?
I disagree. I don't mind giving special consideration to better dates. Grading isn't cut and dry, black and white. There are many subtle nuisances and variables to factor in. That's one of them. However, there's a flip side to net grading better dates. They are much more strict on grade jumps or borderline details where the value would be substantially increased.
I would buy the bottom one before the top. The wire brushing on the top one doesn't do anything for me.