Which 1914-D Lincoln is graded higher?

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  1. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

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  3. 05Wildcats

    05Wildcats Well-Known Member

    I also believe the top picture grades higher.
     
  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    To me they are both the same grade. However, neither TPG likes wood graining. I think the second is the higher grade. 8 - 10
     
  5. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Most of you agreed with the TPG's. If I were buying one to complete a Lincoln set, I'd prefer the NGC coin, which has better eye appeal. But there is a touch more technical detail on the PCGS one.
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  6. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    It's actually 13.5
     
  7. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    No. G06+VG08=F14.
     
  8. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I get PCGS, but I fail to see NGC's problem.
     
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  9. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Exactly my thoughts. PCGS missed the doubling in PROBLEM and the clashed letters COI followed by N.
     
  10. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Yeah, what do those :bucktooth: guys know.! Missing a large green spot and straight grading a scratched up altered coin's obverse so they will be liable in the future.
     
  11. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    The top one is a F12, the bottom VG8, IMO.
     
  12. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    I like the bottom one better, however.
     
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  13. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    It's called net grading a key date. You know that insider. I bet it would have detailed a more common date or even a 31s but it was just ok enough to squeak out a straight 8
     
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  14. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I forgot to add: These 2 coins sold for the exact same price, despite the differing grades on the holder.
     
  15. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    FWIW, everyone, the PCGS one is not cleaned or anything. It's an improperly mixed alloy. Pretty clear when you see it in hand, like many Wheat Cents. Having said that, the NGC coin is much more pleasant to gaze upon...
     
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  16. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    You know, he knows... in fact most of us do. Some of us just don't like those exceptions. In terms of Morgan dollars: an 1881-S (in theory) shouldn't be graded stricter than a key date Morgan, right?
     
  17. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    I disagree. I don't mind giving special consideration to better dates. Grading isn't cut and dry, black and white. There are many subtle nuisances and variables to factor in. That's one of them. However, there's a flip side to net grading better dates. They are much more strict on grade jumps or borderline details where the value would be substantially increased.
     
  18. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

    I would buy the bottom one before the top. The wire brushing on the top one doesn't do anything for me.
     
  19. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Not wire brushing. That's a woody pattern from an improper alloy mix
     
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  20. Donovan Coleman

    Donovan Coleman New Member

    image.jpg image.jpg How much is this worth
     
  21. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

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