Part patina, part silvering on later Roman coins

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  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    In a different thread, @dougsmit wrote,

    I have a few such coins, ranging from not too ugly ...

    Gallienus SOLI INVICTO.jpg

    ... to just plain hideous-looking:

    DIocletian Minerva Antoninianus.jpg

    I suspect this is pretty common. Post your examples of silvered coins that patinated this way.
     
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  3. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Before
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    After cleaning
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    I lost the silvering during the process, but it was pretty much gone anyway.
     
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  4. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    My two examples of Gallienus show nearly full silvering and apparently none at all.
    gallienus silvered ant obverse.jpg Gallienus ant oriens.jpg Gallienus ant orients obverse.jpg

    I LOVE the way that coin turned out @Pishpash--it's gorgeous!!
     
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  5. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Traces still visible especially on the reverse.
    ri159.jpg
    Severina
    Mint: Rome
    274 to 275 AD
    Billon Antoninianus
    Obvs: SEVERINA AVG, Diademed and draped bust right on crescent
    Revs: CONCORDIAE MILITVM, Concordia holding two standards. XXI below, P in field
    20x22mm, 3.9g
     
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  6. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Yes OP, very common. Patchy silver is the bane of coins from this era. I have a wonderful XF Probus with the oncoming quadriga reverse I can barely stand to look at because of the blotchy toning.
     
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  7. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    @medoraman can you post a pic of your Probus please?
     
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  8. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    I actually have quite a few. Currently in the proccess of re photograghing my collection. I will share one of my favorites and spare you the other old ill shot pics.
    Posumus
    20161219_101746.jpg MBBH- ex YOC
     
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  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Aurelian 9.jpg
    AURELIAN
    Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: IMP C AVRELIANVS AVG, radiate cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: / ORIENS AVG, Sol advancing left, holding globe & right hand raised in salute, treading on left of two captives at foot, officina letter in ex
    Struck at Rome,272-4 AD
    4.4g, 22mm
    RIC 62
     
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  10. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    here's some silvering/patination mixed up on a probus..

    [​IMG]
     
  11. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  12. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    out of the bunch, i'd be hard pressed to any silver on these.. maybe one with silver in it. unsilver bronzes LR 001.JPG
     
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  13. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    as coins collectors, we can always tell when an empire, country or civilization starts its downfall... the debasing of it's currency.
     
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  14. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    that coin lQQks so much better after Pish.
     
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  15. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Good idea for a thread. My Carinus is a mess of bronze, patinated bronze, darkly toned silver and brighter silver. Which is a shame, because it's a decent coin otherwise. Any suggestions on how to improve it would be greatly appreciated!

    Screen Shot 2017-03-05 at 12.03.06 PM.png
     
  16. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Cool Probus. I have one also.
    Wanna see? ;)
    Probus-Sol_quadriga[RIC Vb 911].jpg
     
  17. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I'd leave that one alone. You might remove the dusty green cover as seen on the two coins in the first post by RC but The only thing that might help this Carinus might be to remove the silver but I do not know how to do that.
     
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  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I bought mine UNSILVERED...
    RI Postumus 259-268 CE Antoninianus Cologne Providentia GREEN.JPG

    Got it CLEANED by @YOC, and found out it was SILVERED!
    RI Postumus 259-268 CE Antoninianus Cologne Providentia.jpg
    RI Postumus 259-268 CE Antoninianus Cologne Providentia
     
  19. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

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  20. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    He has the Magic! I was amazed, and, yes, they ARE the same coin (look at 11:00 and his neck on the obv.)
     
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  21. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Here is what I consider a good example of part silvering part lack of silvering making a coin UGLY. Tacitus looks scarred.

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    Here the cleaning process has removed the delicate silvering and created another horror.

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