When is a coin not a coin?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by sakata, Mar 3, 2017.

  1. BostonCoins

    BostonCoins Well-Known Member

    You raise very good points @Conder101 (as usual). I will say your argument on the State coppers is a very good one, and hard to argue against. I suppose in those cases, they were officially issued by a state government, therefore legal tender within that state. I cannot say one way or the other if those coins were ever officially recognized, or would have been honored if presented in a different state.

    As for your statement on the early Large Cents and Half Cents, I don't understand your point/question. Where each of these coins were issued by acts passed by the US government, wouldn't they fall under the term of Legal Tender for the United States? When the Large Cents were replaced by the Flying Eagle and Indian cents, did the government issue a new law that stated the previous Large Cents were no longer legal tender?
     
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  3. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Nope. Legal tender originally only included gold and silver coin. It's worth a trip to Google.
     
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  4. BostonCoins

    BostonCoins Well-Known Member

    I was not aware of that little loophole. Very interesting! I"ll be doing some reading on that for sure this weekend! Thank you @-jeffB and @Conder101 ! I love this site for this very reason! Always learning something new!
     
  5. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Coin=legal tender, past or present.
     
  6. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    If the definition is that simple, yap stones have got to be the biggest coins ever made.

    history-of-money-stone-1-dbb32140.jpg

    I wonder if NGC will encapsulate them and grade them. Anyone has a 20 ton crane we can use to get one over to NGC?
     
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  7. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    We could pay off half the national debt with that.
     
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  8. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    A coin is not a coin when @dcarr makes it :D
    (not ragging on Mr. Carr at all, just thought he might find it funny)
     
  9. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    He states emphatically it's not legal tender, so it ain't a coin. I still like his overstrikes, regardless.:D
     
  10. Silverhouse

    Silverhouse Well-Known Member

    A coin by any other name is just a coin, or is it?
     
  11. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    It's a bit late in the evening to try to analyze that.:wacky:
     
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  12. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    They did (CACA sticker too!)
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  13. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    New Jersey did make theirs legal tender (which was why I didn't mention NJ in my last post) but the Vermont, Connecticut, and Massachussets coppers were NOT legal tender even within their own states.

    So being legal tender has nothing to do with whether or not a piece is a coin.
     
  14. A coin is not a coin when it is really a button.
     
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