A variety of old holder golds arrived today!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by jwitten, Feb 24, 2017.

  1. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    It would be an interesting experiment to see how much handling it took to get "crud" versus how much it took to get wear. I bet the crud could develop a LOT faster.
     
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  3. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    I get it, I was just wondering if there was an event or something that caused it to happen then. Something that cold be pinpointed.
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I wouldn't bet on that. Yes, wear is usually due to repeated contact at a given point, but it doesn't have to be repeated very often to break the luster !
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yeah something happened - they were running out of coins to grade.
     
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  6. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    I understand now
     
  7. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    Very nice, the 1906 especially is under graded by modern standards.
     
  8. Fjpod

    Fjpod Active Member

    Love pre 33.
     
  9. Fjpod

    Fjpod Active Member

    Great photos of great coins.
     
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  10. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    I was browsing ebay today and saw this MS graded coin. No way the graders could have missed all this dirt and debris in the devises! Wow.
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  11. Fjpod

    Fjpod Active Member

    Not that I am an expert, but I would have given it a 60. I don't think dirt necessarily will lower a grade. It reduces eye appeal....
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'm amazed they even slabbed that coin at all !
     
  13. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    I've also noticed quite a few times older slabbed gold that has clearly visible residue from putty or something all over it that apparently was missed when graded yet became more visible after it aged.
     
  14. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Why? The hairlines? Gold is super easily marked up. You can tell in the holder picture it actually looks pretty nice.
     
  15. charlottedude

    charlottedude Novice Collector

    Nice looking group of gold and and all look mostly accurately graded, except for the 1906 QE, which looks like an MS-62/63.

    'dude
     
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  16. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    That effect is commonly seen on genuine Indian Head quarter eagles. It is caused by later die state erosion of the die faces. It would not really effect the grade or desirability of the coin.
     
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  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Do you see all that green stuff on the coin - what do you think it is ?
     
  18. coinsareus10

    coinsareus10 Well-Known Member

    Verdigris and shouldn't have been straight graded.
     
  19. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    I do not believe it is verdigris. I have had and seen plenty like that that graded.
     
  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    And neither do I, but then that was my entire point !
     
  21. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Then why are you surprised it graded?
     
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