Busted NGC slabs in the for sale section

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Pickin and Grinin, Jan 9, 2026 at 9:35 PM.

  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The old practice, that many of us had in the olden younger days was to find that coin. Stick it in your album. I haven't done that in almost a year. Cracking slabs.
    When was the last time you cracked a slab?
    Unless I got the coin for a steal and not selling it, I am not cracking it.
    I am afraid those days of snagging something on the cheap are gonna become far and few between.
    @Randy Abercrombie nice seated PL
     
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  3. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    I've cracked a few LCs out for my album but that's about it for crackouts
     
  4. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I cracked a few handfuls for a type set album several years ago. I also cracked a few that I thought could upgrade or do better in a PCGS holder (toned Morgans). This was also several years ago. Nothing has been cracked recently.
     
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  5. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    One thing that I have heard about recently is cracking slabbed silver bullion coins. Now that spot has increased, the slab brings no premium and the refineries don't take the slabs. So dealers are cracking.
     
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  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Interesting how many 70's have been taken off the market toners etc, thanks.
     
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  7. nerosmyfavorite68

    nerosmyfavorite68 Well-Known Member

    I'd like to free 95% of my slabbed ancients. However, I'm a bit of a klutz and I'm fearful that I'll damage some of the coins in the jailbreak effort.

    The slabs in these cases add nothing. They're all of the budget NGC variety, not having weights and other important information. It also makes photography even harder. But hey, there's a grade! *90% of which I also disagree with, not that stated grade's very important to ancient coin collectors. By today's overgrading standards there's nothing too outrageous, but their chVF is my F+, etc.

    All were presents. I've never bought a slabbed coin. *Well, not one that I've received. The one slabbed coin I ever ordered in the mail disappeared.
     
  8. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I had a tough slab to get into from a company called NGS. I drilled a hole on the side and stuck a small screwdriver in it and after several tries, I cracked it open. 1939 Cent slab.jpg
     
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  9. nerosmyfavorite68

    nerosmyfavorite68 Well-Known Member

    I haven't been able to re-find the video, but there was an amusing youtube video of Aaron Berk freeing a very expensive Brutus from its tomb. He used a hammer or a mallet, I believe.

    That being said, I don't mind slabs as much with moderns. For ancients they add near zilch. I really value an ancient with a 100 year old collector tag. I've noticed that anything like that rarely (I've never seen it, at least) comes with a slabbed example.
     
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  10. nerosmyfavorite68

    nerosmyfavorite68 Well-Known Member

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    Here's a freed example. The dealer had enough sense to free it from the tomb. The NGC grade was XF, and the equally useless strike and surface grades were both 3/5, respectively. The strike on day one was probably quite good. It's because the coin has some wear. How can one grade a strike for a non-MS coin, other than some egregious problem being present?

    It's more handsome in hand than in the picture, being of a mahogany hue. I suspect that it's a pre-1950 find coin. It has that old collection look.

    XF, my butt. It's a very pleasant VF, not that stated grade really matters too much anymore for ancients.
     

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  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I’ve only cracked out one coin. I wanted to fill the last hole in my folder. It was graded AG-3 so not a big deal to me.
     
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  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I would have to say that there is a nice circ look to that coin I would say that there are plenty of details left on that coin to call it Extra Fine.
     
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  13. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    I cracked out a Connecticut copper last week, much like ancients, colonials just don't belong in them! I have a 1640 counterstamped French douzain that I have to get around to cracking. Those worry me a little more, they are so thin they bend easily. Definitely extra care needed!
     
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  14. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    I cracked these out when I did my 7070,except the 1978-D SBA which was in a flip. Labels A.jpg Labels B.jpg
     
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  15. chrissy1955

    chrissy1955 Active Member

    I've cracked slabs that came back not meeting my expectations. I be like, "Meh, what do they know?" You should see the pile of cracked slabs on the floor!:arghh:
     
  16. ksmooter61

    ksmooter61 Not in Kansas anymore

    I detest slabs and crack them all, keep the labels with them in the album. I do appreciate the fact they have been authenticated though so most of what I buy over $200 is slabbed. But I've been told I'm not a serious collector, so probably just shows my ignorance.
     
  17. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    It’s been years since I did a crackout (using my infamous “no tools” technique).

    But I might do one today or tomorrow.

    I brought this Chilean peso with me to the FUN show to have @messydesk photograph it (I hate these pics of it).

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    BUT, since I and several folks I’ve showed it to agree it’s undergraded, I might crack it out, resubmit it raw to NGC, and have them do new photos. I don’t claim to know more than NGC, but I’ve got a hunch this piece has MS63 or better potential. It has very clean surfaces.

    I’ll have to see what the MS61 to MS63-ish spread is, value-wise. If it is significant, I might crack it and resubmit. (I usually don’t play that game.)

    If, on the other hand, the spread is minimal, I’ll probably just keep it in the current NGC MS61 holder and just have John (@messydesk) reshoot better pics through the slab (annoying prongs and all).

    Edit/update: MS63 catalog is only $150, and I already have $175 in the coin. So I’m already underwater and it’s not worth playing the crackout game. I will, however, throw another ten bucks at it to get better pix from @messydesk.
     
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  18. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Authentication is a big part of the appeal of slabbed coins.

    And what makes a "serious collector", anyway? Never seen a definition and I wouldn't accept one that was presented. So, your interlocutor was just rudely presenting his own prejudices as if guidance from above.
     
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